Jey (00:16.032)

I just realized as the live studio audience was cheering and going, I gave you no warnings whatsoever what was about to happen. So that's my bad. This is the way of the Young Dad podcast. Welcome in everybody. Welcome into another episode. I'm joined by my friend Patrick, aka at Dadalorian Life over on Instagram. Patrick, how are you today?

Patrick Tafua (00:16.21)

Yeah.

Patrick Tafua (00:22.326)

I'm going to go to bed.

Patrick Tafua (00:33.162)

I'm doing great, Joe. Appreciate you having me on. Wouldn't be a Monday morning with a few little audio hiccups, but we're here now and here we are, dude. Appreciate it.

Jey (00:47.936)

True, it's still not as bad as Paramount Plus timing out. I wanna say it timed out for me, hold on. The first half, six times it timed out and the app just closed and I had to open it back up. During the halftime show twice, during the halftime show, and then it would lag and it was rough. And so Paramount Plus, I tweeted multiple times. I'm like, Paramount Plus, you could just say you guys weren't ready for this.

Patrick Tafua (01:14.742)

Dude, like, and they had all the time in the world to be ready, because they had that one game, that one divisional round for it, you know, and I didn't pay for it. Oh, that was on Peacock. Oh, shoot, you're right. Classic. Should have stayed stuck with it. Yeah.

Jey (01:17.012)

then just say it, just admit it now.

Jey (01:27.612)

No, that was on Peacock. That was on Peacock.

Patrick Tafua (01:33.021)

Yeah.

Jey (01:33.3)

So Paramount, but you think they would have taken those numbers, taken last year's Super Bowl numbers, put an extra 10% on of them to be able to be ready for what could have happened and upgraded their servers over these last, because they know that they were going to host the Super Bowl for the whole year, right? They've had all this time to get their servers ready, upgraded their live TV streaming better.

Patrick Tafua (01:38.934)

I'm gonna go to bed.

Patrick Tafua (01:45.942)

Absolutely.

Patrick Tafua (01:51.955)

Yep.

Patrick Tafua (02:01.782)

That systems architect is going to be crapping his bed when he goes to work today. But I'm gonna take off fire. Yeah, absolutely.

Jey (02:03.273)

all this time and they failed miserably.

Jey (02:12.704)

He already got fired. He got fired during the first time it went out during the halftime show. No, because you gotta think like they don't, the artists don't pay, don't get paid for their halftime performance. The whole point of the halftime performance is because it's just to give them more publicity, whoever they're with to give them more publicity for people then to go and like filter to their stuff.

Patrick Tafua (02:15.572)

Yeah.

Patrick Tafua (02:21.334)

No.

Patrick Tafua (02:34.25)

Yeah, because I think Usher's like releasing an album or something. I think they shared that a little bit in the game. So I was like, oh, well, all right. There it is. That's why he's doing this.

Jey (02:47.896)

Yeah, but it's like if you and then like the audio during the halftime show, like I swear it didn't pick them up half the time.

Patrick Tafua (02:52.818)

I was watching on YouTube TV. I'm glad it stuck with it. No blackouts on my end. It was great. It was a great experience for me. But no paramount plus.

Jey (03:05.072)

nice yeah i tried watching on paramount no it was yeah no paramount plus is great though for like as a dad that you know a millennial dad all the 90s cartoons all the good old school cartoons all the spongebob all the rugrats all the rocket power all the red and stimpy all the cat dog all the things all those shows that my kids don't watch because they're boring

Patrick Tafua (03:13.444)

Oh yeah.

Jey (03:29.788)

And they're like slower than like the average cartoon or the animation is a little bit different. Uh, and I just don't like them, which is sad. It's heartbreaking.

Patrick Tafua (03:33.938)

Yeah, Rocket Power, I introduced that, did the whole Wiggly with my son, and then it was, can we get back to Bluey or something else? Damn, moment God, you know.

Jey (03:49.2)

Yeah, missed opportunity. Maybe it'll change someday, but Patrick, tell us about you, tell us about your platform, tell us about your fatherhood journey a little bit, or anything else you want us to know about you.

Patrick Tafua (03:57.714)

Yeah, absolutely. First off, thanks for having me. You know, like you have our mutual friend Rob on here, Girl Dad. And you know, that's what got me introduced to you. And, you know, I thought you had a great job of just bringing in great messages of encouragement from other parents and also just parenthood. Right. And I definitely have taken some things away from myself. But a little bit about me. Yeah. So a dad at Laurian Life. Let me just start there. You know, the whole name came from

One of my favorite shows is The Mandalorian. I'm not a Star Wars nerd or geek, but I do love Star Wars, grew up on it, being raised by five older brothers who were alive during the original trilogies and whatnot, so I was sort of adopted into Star Wars. But The Mandalorian was a show that came out a few years ago and it was something that really resonated and took to be mine versus my brothers who grew up with the original trilogy. So that's really what it stems from.

And it's just a play on that. But a little bit about the show, as we probably all know, there's a way of life for these certain type of people. And there's a reference in the show that's called This is the Way, when they abide by this particular creed or a way of life. And I resonated with that a lot. And that's kind of where it helps me kind of have as a launching point for my platform as being a father. My whole thing is fatherless to fatherhood, a journey.

And I really come in with that whole.

theme, trying to, with humor and with, you know, some things that are not on my platform, but that's really where it stems from. Because I've been really enjoying trying to figure out what is fatherhood really looking like for me. And for one who didn't have it. And so that really comes down to three things that are out of microcosm from a small thing what I believe should be a big part of not just fatherhood, but parenthood in general is love, availability, and reliability.

Patrick Tafua (05:57.95)

And the love fart comes from first loving my spouse, right? Loving my wife first. And being a product of a single mother, I recognized wholeheartedly like that was something probably missing majority of the time for my mom. She was married twice before I was born and they were failed marriages. And it was just something that I would hear about as I grew older. And I heard as I saw my siblings become parents and things that they were trying to do and not replicate from there.

parents, you know, my mom's ex-husbands, I was like, okay, you know, so that's a big portion of what I believe at the core of fatherhood. First, love my partner, love my wife. Let my kids see that love first and I love them. And then availability, I believe is the best ability that we can give to our children and also to our spouses, right, to everyone, which I hope leads to the output of reliability for our family. That's

You know, it's a lot of availability, is the input that we put in together that I hope the output is reliability. And that's what I'm wanting to bring. That's the message of data lowering life. I guess that is the way to what I'm trying to bring. Of course, with a little bit of humor, but you know, that's kind of the microcosm of what a data lowering life is to me. But I'm the youngest of nine, a little bit more personal. I'm the youngest of nine. So I've had a lot of other parents in my life besides my mom. And you know, I think I'm trying to.

create this little platform as even more of a dedication to my little village of those who stepped in the roles as father figures in my life or additional parents when my mom wasn't around who was working two jobs, sometimes three, to care for me and the rest of my siblings. So that's a big part of who I am. I guess we'll start there as a launching point. But yeah.

Jey (07:54.512)

I like it. I like it. So like out of your siblings within your home that you grew up with, who did you end up being like closest with? Who are you still like closest with like out of everyone like to this day?

Patrick Tafua (08:03.058)

Yeah, I mean, well, I take it to step back. There's a 13 year gap between me and the second youngest. So I was everybody's baby. There was already adults in the family. I just kind of came in and I'm like, oh, surprise. Mom's expecting a child here. So I would say when it comes to closest, it would be my older sibling, my older brother, of course older.

told her. My brother Mo, he stepped in that father role in our lives for all of us. And I would say I'm closest to him because I just, there was just this in...

Patrick Tafua (08:49.79)

man, like not personal connection, but just an easy connection, him taking that fatherly role to the point that my oldest son is named after him. You know, that's how important he is in my life. And I wanted to give that to him. He only has two daughters who I love, and my two nieces, but you know, I was gonna have the first boy here and I was gonna be him, no question. And so I would say my oldest brother Mo.

Jey (09:20.488)

I love that. So for you, kind of what you hit on there, you know, the first love your wife, that's a, that's a topic right there because it's, it's against, it's unconventional, which is super sad. I've talked about this in depth on the podcast a few times where for me personally, it's

I've been disagreed with on the podcast about this, that it's not as linear as I placed it, but at the same time it's slightly fluid, but not at the same time. So how I've always rated it, and this goes back to my religious beliefs primarily, is that it's your God first, your wife second, your kids third, your ministry fourth, and oh no, the rest of your family fourth, and then wait no, ministry fourth, and then everything else after that.

Patrick Tafua (09:59.304)

Yep.

Jey (10:15.24)

kind of thing. So it falls in that very linear, very intentional order. Love God before everyone else. Commandment in the Bible. Love God first. Everything seems to work out after that. Love your spouse next. And I actually had a conversation with this at work where it ended up I was asked very respectfully, like, why is your spouse second or your partner second? Shouldn't your kids be ahead of them? I'm like, no.

Not necessarily because if I put my kids before them, then I lose them. Then I lose that support. I lose that system. I lose that help. I lose that. I lose all of that. You know, I lose that friendship, that support, that reliability, that concrete, you know, foundation, that everything that, you know, my partner is, my fiance is. Like, I lose all of that. I already went through that once in my previous marriage and I learned my lesson.

Patrick Tafua (11:07.379)

Yeah.

Jey (11:12.348)

when everything else came before my spouse, which happened a lot. And I can admit that fully, fullheartedly. I put work and my kid and everything else like before her. So much of the time. And that's OK. I probably there's multiple other reasons why it didn't work out in the end. Not saying that's the end all be all. Did it help? No. But did I learn from that? Absolutely. To now where it's like.

to now fast forward to today, it's like, well, I'm going to put her first and respect her and love her and give her a little bit more than my kids because, A, I only have my kids half the time, so what am I supposed to do with the other half of my time? But also I can still put her first while doing things for my kids. Sometimes, yes, I do have to flip-flop those on occasion to where that's just the necessity of the moment to call for, oh, I need to put the kids right here.

You know, we have to sacrifice this thing that we were going to do for the kids and put the kids ahead of us for this particular thing and kind of move, move things around. But I think it's important to put your spouse first, your partner first, because they're your support. They're the other parent. If your kids see that you're not loving them, then they're not going to love them or respect them as much. But if they can see how much you love them, then that's going to be a whole lot easier.

Patrick Tafua (12:35.286)

Yeah, absolutely. You know, there's two things there, right? Like the first thing I've kind of in a light bulb moment for me in this whole creating this platform and thinking about love being the first thing for this. But first, sorry, I agree love God first, yes. Yes to that and love my wife, right? I believe I agree with you on that. And so, but when it comes to this, I've always said that I love my wife first, right? You know, but my kids loved us instantly.

Jey (12:40.214)

of a transition there.

Patrick Tafua (13:03.702)

and but I loved my wife first. And I think that was a big thing for me to remember and try to recognize like going into this parenthood and recognize what is important as a father for me and my eyes, right? And going through that. So I just always believed that I loved, like my kids loved us instantly, but I loved her first. And I tried to, I joked that with my oldest son who's five and he gets it like, hey, I love you son, but remember I loved your mom first. And like it's.

Because he's always about, I did it first, I did this whole, he tries to compete. And so I try to bring that to his attention and teach him and model that like, you know, I love you, but I loved your mom first son, you know, and we got to help mama or whatever it is and then like this and that. But secondly, you know, where I see it falling important is that, you know, it's the whole airline analogy, right? Put your mask on first and before you put anyone else's and you know.

That was something I took that to heart when I was trying to create this whole idea and this notion. But then lastly, it all actually stems from the fact a year into my wife and I's marriage, I'm not a big astrology guy, okay? I'm not into big horoscopes, but I think they're interesting, okay? But we did do a little thing one night, we're like, what is our compatibility to each other? And apparently, me as a Virgo and my wife as a Sagittarius, that is the worst.

Jey (14:19.303)

Mm-hmm.

Patrick Tafua (14:27.306)

the worst compatibility sign for me, apparently. There's like a 20% success rate with my wife and I's marriage compatibility. So being the competitor that I am, I was like, oh, let's beat that. Like I kind of took some pride. It's kind of funny, a little weird, but like a little weird take, but then I recognize why that's incompatible, which only makes me want to work harder.

because I love her that much. And I think that's kind of a nucleus to where that is really stemming from.

Jey (15:09.356)

That's interesting. Yeah, no, it's. Horoscopes or something to any to any of my single man listening out there, I'm just going to say this, don't if you're with an astrology girl, run, run fast, get out, leave. That's interesting that you guys are, you know, so long and the compatibility skill, I'm an Aries, which doesn't mix well with really anybody.

Patrick Tafua (15:20.854)

Ha ha ha!

Jey (15:39.592)

Like Aries, we're kind of the black sheep of all the zodiacs. We're loud, we're mean, we're aggressive, we're fiery, we're hot-headed, we're short-tempered, we're kind of an ass. For me, all those things are true, for the most part. I can control it though. I let my Aries out when I need to let it out. Normally it's pretty tame. I keep it kind of like a smoldering fire. You know, add a couple pieces of wood, it'll whew, or some lighter fluid, it'll whoosh.

Patrick Tafua (15:54.986)

Sure.

Patrick Tafua (15:59.766)

There you go.

Patrick Tafua (16:04.438)

Splatter Fluids, that's more like it.

Jey (16:09.376)

But normally it's just smoldering. Exactly, add a little bit of lighter fluid, those flames will go. But outside of that, like my fiance and I, she's a Pisces and I'm an Aries. And according to Astro Sage, the first thing on Google, it says that this is a picture perfect relationship.

Patrick Tafua (16:26.038)

Alright.

Jey (16:32.576)

So I'll take it. I'll take it. But I think, I mean, it's so important to make sure that you're available. So we hit the loving your wife first, but being available for your children. I've hit this so many times with other guests. Who said it? It was...

Jey (16:54.624)

I think it was Jeff Wickersham episode 87, I think. Warrior Dad, you guys can look that up. And if you're listening, go back through the catalog. Look for Warrior Dad, Jeff Wickersham. He said that one thing that's really important to him and that's really established his foundation is answering every bid for his attention. So answering all those bids for attention, even the smallest one. Because essentially,

Patrick Tafua (17:14.486)

Thank you.

Jey (17:22.904)

I'm sure you've seen it or maybe haven't that it's like a viral Facebook post where the kid asks his dad like how much he makes and then the son asks him dad how much do you make? The dad's like don't worry about it it's not important and he just keeps going like dad how much do you make? How much do you get paid an hour? Finally the dad cracks and says I get paid $18 an hour for what I do because the dad had a math salary like I get paid $18 an hour.

Patrick Tafua (17:27.075)

I'm going to take a few minutes to get back to you.

Jey (17:52.892)

little boy goes to his room, gathers up all his allowance, finds $18 of stuff, and he goes to his dad and he's like, Dad, I want to buy an hour of your time. And how important that is because our kids are literally bidding for our attention. They're trying to, especially having multiple children, they're competing for our attention. They're competing with our spouse. They're competing with our own selves. They're competing with themselves sometimes and they don't even realize it, that they have it, but yet they're still competing for more.

Patrick Tafua (17:54.218)

Mm-hmm.

Jey (18:24.176)

And so it's so important to answer all those little bids for attention Because we don't want it to get to that point where a kid feels they have to buy our time They have to buy what we are who we are and buy our attention and buy our love essentially And it goes back to a lot of what Alan Shedlin and I talked about. I don't even know what episode he's gonna be back on soon and You know, we talked about the old

old adage of how do kids spell love. They spell it T-I-M-E, time. So it's the old adage there. So it's so important to be available for your children. To be available, to make sure that you're, that you can answer those b**** for attention no matter when they come.

Patrick Tafua (19:07.362)

agree. And it's, it's just so interesting that like it's that that's trivial to some people that I talk to, you know, and, of course, we're going to speak to dads, right, like to some dads, like, well, who's I got to be the and sometimes it comes in with just like, in the Hispanic ways of machismo, like, you know, this is just I'm the man, like, I got to be the protector, I got to be the provider, I got to do all these other things, you know, but it's just like, I'm not.

I've never really put it to be just the time to just play. It's more like any moment, any moment is all around, there's moments all around you every day. Whether that is like playing or playing, giving some time to play or whatnot. But sometimes it's even in the moment of just putting their shoes on or even just fighting to go to bed. Like those moments, because depending how I react to them is what they're gonna take from it because that's unfortunately the moment, right? Fatherhood is crazy. It could be chaos.

but my reaction and how I go about it really is gonna be the lesson that's gonna be taught. Is it pissing dad off? You know, okay, cool, I'm gonna keep doing it because he's probably gonna keep doing it because he's getting my attention and it's pissing me off or it could be the opposite, like in general. But I just think, I believe that there's moments always around us. We just wanna think of moments as just complete positivity and reading a book and all those are great, but I think there are moments are even the negative times.

They can learn through that as well. But I think when we come at it with an attitude of like pissed off and annoyed, which happens, right? We're not perfect. But I think we have, I think what I want the message to be is that even in those moments of chasing the kid around, trying to get out of the door, trying to get their shoes on, is a teaching moment. It's a moment that you're gonna have that could be long lasting for that child because they're gonna remember how you made them feel during that. And it could go either both.

or negative, but I think my eyes have been open to always seeing everything as an opportunity and a moment to be available for that. Not just the good. It could be as crazy as chasing to get them into the bath, but I just try to step back, be aware of how am I approaching this moment and hopefully in a good way, that's a lesson being learned from my job.

Patrick Tafua (21:33.724)

children.

Jey (21:41.064)

No, that's so important because then that leads to, you know, being reliable for your kids essentially. It all leads into that one, which is so important because your kids need to be able to rely on you for all the things, right? And yes, they need to, good and bad, and they need to be able to rely on you that you're going to support them, you know, keep food on the table, roof over their head, clothes on their back, kind of thing. Of course, they rely on you for their basic needs.

Patrick Tafua (21:50.762)

Good and bad, right? Like, exactly.

Jey (22:10.256)

You rely on yourself for your basic needs. That's a given, but it's so important to not get lost in that so much to a point to where you're not there for anything else, where you're not there supporting them in any other way, shape or form to where you're missing out to where you're missing out on being there for the big moments or even the little moments, you know, or where you miss them or you're too distracted or you're too focused on something else that you miss.

You know, for my little one, every night when she goes to bed, we pray. Uh, and it's so fun. She usually prays so that she wakes up dry so she can get a gumball in the morning. That's like a staple for her. Uh, but you know, I can't leave the bedroom without doing that with her. Sometimes I, I want to go to bed, uh, put her down and get the other one ready for bed and down and whatnot, but like, that's so important to be able to be there for those moments, you know, because not only am I her dad, but I'm also her.

Patrick Tafua (22:42.674)

I'm sorry.

Jey (23:07.852)

uh her spiritual leader that she looks to learn about those things i'm also her you know that's our time to connect and hug and kiss and give it give her that kind of thing where she gets like dedicated a little bit less a little bit more attention right there at the end of the day to end her day um and you know she values those things she's free but she values those things uh she looks forward to them uh and she asked for them because she knows that that's like

She loves it. And it's so important to be there for kids for all those things. And you can't let yourself get caught up in work or life or all the things that you can't be relied on for your kids, because if they're not relying on you, well, as they get older, guess what? They're going to know that they can't rely on you for deep talks. They know that they can't rely on you for to teach them.

to not do something. They know that they can't rely on you to protect them or to do certain things for them or they'd be like, well, my dad's not gonna care anyway, so I'm just gonna go and do drugs or I'm gonna go do this thing or I'm gonna go do this thing because it's not like my dad's gonna care anyway because you set that foundation already. You already laid that foundation as they were growing up that you weren't reliable, that you weren't there. Like kids pick up on all these things.

They know like who did what for them. They know who showed up. They know who supported them. And that's so important, you know, for me as a divorced dad to understand that is like, I have always and always will do my absolute best to show up, to be there, to support them. To the point where like, I'm really thinking like, man, maybe this year won't, will be the year that I just, I-

Patrick Tafua (24:48.643)

Hmm?

Jey (25:01.408)

stop coaching and I just get to be a parent and I'll help. Maybe I'll give that opportunity to someone else so I can just be a parent. Part of me loves coaching, but part of me just wants to be a dad and enjoy it at the same time. So it's really hard. It's kind of a internal struggle right now because I wanna be reliable and there for my kid and help her and support her.

help her grow and stuff. Cause it's gotta be her, essentially it's gonna be her last year of like regular baseball before next year she's gonna do softball and transition to softball. And I don't really wanna coach softball personally. So it's a whole nother, whole nother, whole nother thing. So.

Patrick Tafua (25:42.186)

Okay, I.

recognize that struggle. You know, so we live in Sacramento, California, and we moved up here about four years ago for three years for 2019. So almost five years. And right away, I got put into work in terms of our congregation and our faith up here. Right. I got into a right over like a month in, I was put into a leadership role. So we were in Southern California.

Yeah, we were in Southern California. I'm originally from Southern California, Westminster, AKA, which is right next to Huntington Beach. That's probably a better landmark for other people. My wife is originally from here. Go ahead.

Jey (26:12.608)

Where were you guys... Where were you guys before? Okay.

Jey (26:23.076)

Okay. Yeah. I was born in, I was born in Torrance and I was raised in, or I went to high school and stuff in the Bay area. I went to high school in Oakland. So.

Patrick Tafua (26:28.174)

Okay, very cool. Yeah, so my wife's originally from here in Sacramento and we were living in Southern California and we were recognizing what we really wanted was roots and getting our own home. And we didn't wanna do that in the Indian Empire, which was probably the only option we had. So we were like, yeah, let's move up to Sacramento. Plus the best gifts for our kids sometimes is having grandparents.

So we are closer to my in-laws and that's been enjoyable to have that as well. But yeah, when we moved up here, go back to the internal struggle, I got put right into work, into our faith, into the leadership, in a leadership capacity, especially working with the youth. And so that took a lot of my time. And then 2020 hit and you know the pandemic and I recognize, okay, here's why we were led here and here's why I need to help out because it's an older congregation and.

There are certainly things I could bring to the table to help out. But just last summer, I really had a hard conversation with my wife. And we were just trying to evaluate where we were and how we were doing and how was I doing being available to us first, her and I. Because I think sometimes we get into our marriages or in our relationships and we are partners. We're partners. And I just think like, okay.

your role in the partnership is this. Am I like, sometimes we get into those little just already putting responsibilities, assumptions that this is what we're good. Like you're good at this. It's like, we're good, you got my back, thank you. But then it was just a hard and real conversation. And the thing is, it's like, I love my wife. Like, and I recognize like she needed me. And it wasn't, there was a struggle of like, hey, like going to.

the leader of our congregation, like, hey, I think we need a pivot, you know? I've always believed that we kind of started off the topic of love God, love my wife, love my children, my family. And then it was, and I've always was counseled, like even love my job almost in a sense before my ministry because I need to take care of child, children, family, and wife.

Patrick Tafua (28:46.418)

You know, like my calling and serving should not be more priority than those things. And I think I missed that.

Okay.

Jey (28:56.576)

See, I wrap my job into my ministry. I wrap my job into my ministry a lot of the time because like I do what I absolutely feel like I'm supposed to be doing.

Like I feel like it's part of like my ministry. I've always felt like I'm gonna work with youth and families. I work with youth and families. I just got a nice, actually today, the day of this recording starts my new pay and my new title starts today. So I'm pretty excited about that. But beyond that, I've always put that like into my ministry because like what I believe is also part of my work. It helped, it definitely helps like guide me. It helps propel me.

And it's, you know, my ministry is my schedule during the day. Like what am I doing to honor, to glorify, to do like is who I am. Like how does that go out into, into the workplace? Like how does that portray itself? Versus where it's like, I don't want to just be a person, especially on Mondays. Like let's say on Mondays I go to, I wake up, get ready, go to work.

work all day and then I have to, I don't want to have to switch that gear. I don't like having to switch that gear to know, Oh, now I'm at a wanna now I'm teaching a lesson about whatever verse or whatever topic we're on tonight. I don't like having to like force my brain to switch those gears. Uh, cause it doesn't feel, doesn't feel right. I don't like switching, having to feel like I'm switching a whole big part of me.

Patrick Tafua (30:16.921)

Sure.

Jey (30:28.756)

to this other thing now. So that's just kind of where I'm at with that. So I usually wrap work into my ministry because they kind of go hand in hand because if I'm not serving at somewhere in my day, then I'm not giving the most I can to be able to support everything else. So.

Patrick Tafua (30:40.49)

Yeah, but I think we can agree. I love that. And that's something I want to, I will take away for sure on this whole conversation is putting that together. That's really should be right. You know, your life to Christ is always your life. It's your life, whether that's at work or play or whatever it is. Right. So you're right. Like it shouldn't be segmented. She'd always be walking with Christ everywhere we go. And I love that. And I just maybe that's like a little switch, a little deviation from the way there. I love that. But I think we both agree, like where that is priority wise is below God.

Jey (30:56.969)

Mm-hmm.

Patrick Tafua (31:10.022)

wife and so I think that's the internal struggle you're dealing with the coaching and all that I can feel free on that. I ultimately asked to be released from my duties you know the summer and kind of get a release a reset for myself and for my family and just kind of come back because I recognize here's what happened my child he was four years old we were saying let's go to church.

Jey (31:15.248)

Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

Patrick Tafua (31:38.394)

Let's get ready for church. And I'm already there because I'm having to get things ready. My wife's been trying to get him and his one year old brother ready to go. And he told his mom, uh, church is for Dada. And, you know, not for us. Cause I was like, Oh, that, that one's done. And that was a reality check for me because I was like, no, church is not just for Dada, you know, this is for all of us. And so I, I took the personal leave of taking a step back.

And because he was a, he's a COVID child in a sense, right? A lot of going to church for him was through a screen because we couldn't be there physically. And so his, I just like, there was just an internal wire changing I needed to do it. Cause he's never had to come to church with dad. And I, man, like I never had that, right? Like I talked about how father's dream, like I never had that. So I don't even know what that's like, but I know that I wanted that for my family. And when he said those words, like it was life altering his sense in my eyes because like, wait, I...

really forgot that that's more of a priority than anything, is bringing him with me to church, you know, and like having him experience it. And now it took months of repetition to doing it with dad, sitting with dad in the pew and not seeing dad in the front, you know, like having dad right there with him. It's a whole different experience and it's been great. Like he loves going, you know, it's just little, it's crazy how that little change, that little availability, bringing actual...

Bringing what I believe, of bringing availability to this moment of church has changed everything in Dynamics for Our Family.

Jey (33:19.008)

I love that. That's so important. That's so important to, you know, that's what you're trying to instill in them. Then you have to essentially, you have to show them, you know, cause it's hard if they're, if they're a COVID baby and they're watching it through a screen or they always just see you up front versus like, well, what does that mean for me? Like, cool. I'm just here because I have to be kind of thing and it creates the, the wrong sense of kind of what we're wanting to them to get out of it. So it's super important.

Patrick Tafua (33:33.631)

Yeah.

Jey (33:49.82)

to be available for them even in those moments that we don't realize like, oh, we should be available for them. So that's why I'm kind of torn on that, but well, I'll get through it. Maybe one more year. Maybe one more year. We'll see there. A lot of this is just like my own pride and stuff because I wasn't a collegiate athlete, collegiate baseball player, and so it's hard for me to give that up.

Patrick Tafua (33:57.251)

All good, man.

Jey (34:13.412)

and not want to live vicariously through these kids, to teach them the right way to play baseball versus some guy who was a desperation picked by the league to like, oh, we need a coach, you wanna do it? Cool, what do you know? Nothing, cool, have fun. Cause I want these kids actually love baseball and actually want to keep playing baseball. And I want them to be halfway decent at baseball so that they actually like...

Patrick Tafua (34:41.205)

You gotta be the best loser, you know? Like you gotta be the best loser in office.

Jey (34:42.408)

Cause part of baseball is like, you're going to fail 70% of the time. If you're elite. Yeah. And if you're going to be elite at baseball, you have to be able to fail 70% of the time. And that's just, you know, if you don't have fundamentals when you're five, six, seven years old, because you had a coach that just was thrown in there that didn't teach you nothing, those bad habits are going to stay until you're 10, 11 years old.

And then by the time it's actually time to get competitive, you're going to want to be competitive, but you suck. And you failed 90% of the time versus 10% or 70% of the time. Like that 20, that gap of 20% is massive. Uh, and you can tell the kids who are, if you look at a little league baseball game, you can tell the kids who are well coached, who have practiced more, who have engaged parents, who have, you know,

Patrick Tafua (35:25.545)

Absolutely.

Jey (35:42.144)

little bit of more time and effort put into them because they're just better. They're just straight up better. Some of it's natural talent, some of it's just they're just better because they have that engagement, they have that time, they have that effort put in by their coaches, by their parents, by their dads or whoever to make sure that they can compete with their peers at this level so that they are only failing 70% of the time versus 90% of the time. 20% is huge. It's massive.

Patrick Tafua (36:07.526)

I agree. I'm with you and I commend you. I wish I could give back to sports. You know, I was a collegiate athlete myself, played football and you know, I made a promise, like if I want to go coach, I'm only going to do high school. I can't go down to the kids level. Unfortunately, it would be hard for me. I probably will end up doing it with my kids. I don't know. But it's just like there's just so much knowledge that you've experienced, that I've experienced playing at collegiate level that like I just don't want it to go to waste on a kid who can't even type. It's you know, it's like, ah.

Jey (36:12.4)

It's a huge gap.

Patrick Tafua (36:37.214)

Like, you know, but it's just, you know, every opportunity I've had to come back to the sport in some capacity with the youth, yeah, I love it. And it makes me miss it even more. So it's probably why I stay away. But, you know, I love that you're doing it. And I would agree that like, that's what our kids need is those who actually been in it. I have most of you on that. As much as I, you know, a Joe Schmoe can come off and volunteer, I appreciate it. But...

Jey (36:40.068)

Right? Exactly.

Jey (36:55.057)

Yeah.

Patrick Tafua (37:05.042)

My kid's not gonna play. I personally, my kid won't play for you. Like I told my wife, I said, hey, like I'm not gonna push sports on our kids. I promise you that. She wasn't an athlete. But if my kid picks up a football and throws it 50 yards, we're gonna have to entertain this. You know, we're gonna have to figure this out. Okay? But I said, if we're gonna go into sports, any sport, soccer, whatever have you, I'm gonna look at the coach. I'm gonna be very particular.

Jey (37:10.012)

Mm-hmm.

Jey (37:13.426)

Yeah.

Jey (37:27.555)

Right.

Patrick Tafua (37:33.014)

Because you may not think about it, you may just think for them to have fun, but I'm gonna be looking at how they're coaching. This is the same way of like how I think about it, of us as parenting, like how are we parenting our child? You know, we're both gonna work on this, but it's the same with the coach in my eyes. Because now I recognize the importance of coaching. And you know, I commend you for doing it. I got much respect because I just, it's nothing against those volunteer parents, but man, like I'm not, my kid won't play for you. Like that's for sure.

Jey (37:37.674)

Mm-hmm.

Jey (38:04.625)

No, and it's like for me, I just want these kids to learn how to play these games the right way so that they can compete and so that they don't suck. You know, I just I want them to enjoy it at a point where it's like they're good enough to keep up.

Patrick Tafua (38:11.283)

Yeah.

Jey (38:21.476)

Not to where they suck. So I coached flag football one year with my church through upward sports and my team. I had a kindergarten first grade team. We were dominant. We were so good. But it's like, I had another coach talk to me one week that said, Oh, my kids are having fun. And, you know, we can barely get the ball through down the field. I'm like, that's not my fault. Like, they're like, you're sending your kids too fast.

And I like scoot them back off the line a little bit. So like my kids can actually run with the ball. And it's like, Oh, it's not my fault. Your kid, your kids grabbed the ball and they don't know how to run forwards. Like that's on you. Like my kids reflect that, like I've coached them and I've shown them, like I've taken the time to say you run this way. When you get the ball, when you take a handoff, you run, you just run down the field, like you can adapt it to like these kids is gray levels. Like it's not.

Patrick Tafua (38:54.942)

Yeah, that really is.

Patrick Tafua (39:13.526)

Absolutely.

Jey (39:18.512)

It's not that hard and you can find games and stuff to do with them, to teach them the skills you want to learn. But it's like, okay, in that same game, the next, the next half, I scooted them back an extra three, four yards off the line. And then I would count to like three to five, like in my head. And then I would tell them, okay, go, go get them kind of thing. And my kids looked so bored. They were just like, why, like, what are we doing?

Patrick Tafua (39:40.906)

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's just so important. You know who the coaches just like that. That's that's the example right there. Like, oh, they're not having fun. Like, okay, hold on. Sports is fun. Okay. It is fun, but it should be done right. Like it should be done the right way. And you know, that's a reflection on that coach. Like, sorry, dude, like, I don't know what your interpretation of fun and sports is, but it's not, it's not what you're doing. I can tell you that.

Jey (39:53.225)

Mm-hmm.

Jey (40:03.184)

Exactly.

Jey (40:14.052)

Right. And it drove me crazy when I, my daughter was in T ball, seeing coaches on the other team and their kids would come up to bat and it's a T the ball doesn't move. The ball doesn't move. But if you have kids on your team that are spinning, trying to hit that ball, like you obviously took no time to show them how to hit. You took no time to put lines in the dirt to where they should line their feet up so that they could properly hit the ball.

Patrick Tafua (40:41.523)

Good. Give it a try.

Jey (40:42.628)

Even if it's five feet, they're hitting it properly. Like the ball doesn't move. They shouldn't spin. They should not, that's the last thing they should do. They should not be spinning.

Patrick Tafua (40:48.342)

Yeah, I'm curious it may be you know for another time But I'm curious of where the correlations are with that style of coaching to the parenting like

Jey (41:04.652)

You know, it's, it has to be, I think there's a direct correlation because seeing those kids that are those coaches kids on the other side, there are some of the, they're wild. They're a little bit more untamed. Like you can tell who the coaches kids are. You can always tell who the coaches kids are, any sport. For best, for better or worse, sometimes they're just like really hard workers. Sometimes they're just, you know,

next level like talented. Sometimes they're forced into a spot because they're the coach's kid. And the coach says, well, my kid pitches because well, I'm the coach and my kid pitches, uh, it's like, well, they're actually a right fielder, uh, and they should probably be in the outfield and little Timmy from left fields actually can throw the ball across the plate. Maybe you should suck it up and let your kid go and play the outfield because they actually like playing the outfield more.

Patrick Tafua (41:44.56)

I'm sorry.

Jey (42:02.856)

than they like pitching. So I think there's a lot of correlations there, good or bad, better or worse. But I wanna ask you here, do you wanna hit your hot button or do you wanna hit your mental health thing you put in your questionnaire? Which one do you wanna hit?

Patrick Tafua (42:17.994)

Let's do the hot button. Can't really, can't remember.

Jey (42:24.648)

hot button. Okay, so you mentioned for your hot button trying to, how important it is to not conform.

Jey (42:37.796)

Yes, the pressure to conform to traditional gender roles and expectations when raising children. I feel like for yourself, you have boys, or you have a boy, right? You have one or two. Two boys. So for you, I think it's super important for you to work on this with them because it's going to be easy for them to fall into that machismo, you know, kind of that attitude, especially because you have to be extra conscious because you...

Patrick Tafua (42:38.329)

Yeah.

Patrick Tafua (42:42.326)

Two boys, two boys.

Patrick Tafua (42:57.618)

Yes.

Jey (43:08.292)

grew up without a father and you have to make sure that they understand like this is what a dad looks like and you have to like create that picture in real time every single day and not and you have to teach them like okay go wash a dish go help your mom with the chores go do this or making sure that they can do all those things while also still being like tough and strong

One thing my ex father-in-law said that was really impactful like for me, like when it came to this is that it's like one of the few like good things he ever said. Uh, our one thing I actually remember him actually telling me that wasn't just trying to blow smoke up my butt, but he's like, I always tell my kids to be tough. I always told the girls to be tough. I always told them to be tough. Whether that looks like, you know, them wrestling and being tough or whether that looks like them.

you know, playing in dirt and playing with the boys to be tough, but just to like be tough, not necessarily masculine or against like their typical like role, excuse me, roles that they want to take on as like women and females that come naturally, but also just to like, you know, be tough. So for you, kind of how does this work for you trying to break, I guess you're, you are the

Patrick Tafua (44:23.419)

Yeah.

Patrick Tafua (44:28.53)

That's what I'm trying to do, yeah. So there's two parts, like my, well no, don't worry about the first part. Second part, the real thing is like, it kinda can be a culmination of what we've been talking about with college sports and all that. So from Pee-wee all the way to college, I was told these two words before every game, don't suck. And that was all I needed, right?

And peewee and all that, that was funny, it was ha ha. But like, as you know, as an athlete, we have kind of weird superstitions. Like we kind of want to do the same things over and over. Consistency for our sports. And that was the one thing I needed, was to hear those two words.

Jey (45:22.696)

You're good, you're good.

Patrick Tafua (45:25.948)

And so, I hear those two words. I mean, it got to the point when I was in college after team meal, I called my mom. We have a talk before I go to the locker room and whatnot. And she's like, all right son, love you, don't suck. I'm like, thanks mom, cool, hang up. But I really took that and I grabbed it and I ran with it. And I think that's something with breaking the stereotype and breaking the chains, it's just don't suck. Like you see the dishes, go do them. Like what's the, you know, I'm a product of a single mother. You know, and so like.

I had to see my mom do every fricking thing. I didn't know what gender roles were. It wasn't until I started being around other dads that I didn't like, who I saw how they acted, and I was like, because I just remember, I know the stories of my mom's ex-husbands, and I know that I don't like those dudes. That if I see them on site, I was just like, it's not gonna be good. I don't like you. How you treated my mom, that's all rooted in how she was treated.

And some of it could, and then, you know, just remember the days where she would get on me as a child. When I'm thinking like, it's just chores she's having me do. It was more like, nah, because I realized now looking back, my mom had to do every freaking thing, you know? And so coming back to me being a father and like how I treat my wife, it's like, she doesn't need to serve me. Like, I don't need to be served. I got two feet, I got some hands, I can serve my damn self, you know? Like, and so there's this.

There's these things that we both are recognizing as part of our cultures, because I'm Samoan, my wife's Mexican, and there's certainly some aspects of, I am man in both cultures, and you are woman. And I love my father-in-law and my mother-in-law, them being Hispanic, but there was times early on in our marriage, especially when we moved up here, we lived with them for a little bit to get our feet grounded and try to establish where we're gonna be. And there were moments living there

where my father-in-law would tell my wife, hey, is Patrick hungry? Go get him some food. And I'm like, nah, I'm good. I got it. And I would just get up and go get my own food. And there were moments where I would go pick up the dishes and I was recognizing like, oh man, okay. We're at different levels in terms of idea of supporting our wives here. And I imagine a lot of it's the ways of the past and the culture and again, just again, breaking those chains. But I didn't even see these chains to begin with.

Patrick Tafua (47:46.544)

Like I didn't know what those were. I just knew that I didn't like seeing, I eventually didn't like seeing my mom or recognize the struggle she was doing as a mother and a father, a provider, everything for me. Like I was like, I'm gonna do what I can. And so it's not, it's really natural for me to be like, my wife, hey, can you just go get this? Cool, I have no questions. But man, just recently that I hear feedback from another couple friend of ours, the wife was talking to my wife.

And she was saying like, yeah, there's only one time that like my husband brought up something that he recognized. And it was that like he thought you were very demanding, you know, and it was because she was like, hey, can you get this from me? Can you get that? I was like, you're demanding. But no, like, what the heck? Like, I can do these things, you know? And so it's just it's very interesting. It's just very interesting as I've gotten more into this digital world on social media and I'm hearing.

perspectives from the man and from the women and what they hate and what they're annoyed by. And some of those things, specifically on this, just serving each other and serving your wife and serving in the home, seems to be a very unconventional thing. And it's eye-opening because I didn't know that, right? I didn't grow up with that whole idea and understanding. I just, it's just weird. So it is a hot button. And it shouldn't, but that's the thing, like you said, it shouldn't be a hot button.

Jey (49:04.564)

Mm-hmm.

Jey (49:10.513)

Yeah.

Patrick Tafua (49:15.768)

Like, this shouldn't be a hot topic. Like, I just, it's just interesting how that came, how that's come about. And I'm looking forward to just going against that grade and everything.

Jey (49:15.776)

Mm-mm.

Jey (49:24.84)

100% and I mean it shouldn't it shouldn't be a hot button to serve our wives to serve our partners to do things for them It's definitely It's weird because it's more common than you think it would but then you also see the opposite where like

I see women post like, oh, my husband was trying to do this for me and, you know, ra-ra feminism, ra-ra girl power, ra-ra all these things like I don't need him kind of thing like divorce or it's an ick or it's this thing kind of thing. And so it ends up turning into like, well, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't kind of thing. So it's a really weird issue. It's a really weird place. You know, it's one of the...

Patrick Tafua (49:48.049)

Yeah.

Patrick Tafua (50:00.708)

Yeah.

Jey (50:09.996)

I don't, I don't know. It's not one of the brightest spots of feminism. Let's just say that to where it creates that where it's like, well, you want me to serve you, but you don't want me to serve you. You want me to do this for you, but you don't want me to do this for you. You want me to do this, but you don't want me to do that. Like where were you at? Kind of thing. Like, tell me, let me on here.

Patrick Tafua (50:17.596)

Yeah.

Jey (50:34.068)

Tell me exactly what you need. Tell me exactly what you're thinking. Tell me exactly how I can help you and support you. Oh wait, but if I do that, that's bad. But if I don't do that, that's also bad. And it's very confusing for a lot of men out there, especially trying to establish that and to work through that. Ultimately, I feel like in time, like it reversed a little bit back to that. Like those walls kind of break down in time and stuff with the right person.

with the person that you're with, it's like those walls break down where you allow them to serve you, you're allowed to serve them in all these different way, shapes and forms that are meaningful to them. You learn each other how to serve them, how to love them, how to work with them. You learn all these things. It's gonna be rough at first, but both people have to be willing to break down those walls and to go against those conventions that you're being taught, whether it's through feminism or whether it's just growing up in your culture and as a man. It's a...

Patrick Tafua (51:15.922)

Yes.

Jey (51:32.752)

It's a very sharp double edged sword. That's one that's very hard to navigate for a lot of people. But ultimately, do what feels right to you, ultimately. Do what the right thing is. If the right thing is to serve and be selfless, no.

Patrick Tafua (51:35.976)

Very sure.

Patrick Tafua (51:50.056)

And it should never be wrong to do the right thing, right? That's the crazy part. It's unfortunate, it's not like for this feminism movement, I'm all for empowering women to get it. I don't want my wife to be submissive, absolutely submissive to me. I want her to be her. She was her before we got together. She was who she lived, who God created her to be, before she even met me. All because she's married now, she has to just drop that. That doesn't make sense to me. But going back to don't suck.

Like just those two words, you know, like when I, how I applied that to sports was like, Hey, like don't suck at practice, be, be focused, be good. Don't suck being a teammate. Right. Like be a good teammate. Don't suck being a player and not being coachable. Like it wasn't just don't suck on the field. It's just, I involved it holistically on everything about sports. And I just brought that back into fatherhood. It's like, hold on, like this fricking sucks. Let's figure this out. You know, and I think you're hitting on the point of like the double ed start. It is. But.

Just like as we can agree on with everything on it, it's work. Like we gotta really just work this out. Like I love you too much. Like I love you too much to just not work this out. You know, like let's work through this. And I think that's why I'm grateful for sports because we learned that. And that's ultimately what I would want for my children, especially if I were to get in coaching is like, understand like everything you're gonna learn here is going to be applied in your life. Regardless if you take this to professionals or not. But like you're gonna use this for life. And that's.

Jey (52:55.087)

Yeah, you gotta put the work in.

Jey (53:13.763)

Mm.

Patrick Tafua (53:19.9)

how I've been able to bring that into my father's journey is just like, don't suck. Like, figure it out, be available in every moment, be intentional, right? Whether it's just what I was on the field, bring it off the field too now, you know? Like, that's just where it's at.

Jey (53:37.661)

Are you ready to jump into the YDP3? Jump into the YDP3. First one of the YDP3 here, three questions I ask every guest that comes on the show or at least I try to end us. First one here is where are you rooted? Kind of touched on this a little bit, but where are you rooted? What makes up the innermost workings of Patrick?

Patrick Tafua (53:40.638)

Alright, let's do it.

Patrick Tafua (53:59.344)

Yeah, man. So first off, I'm Samoan. And growing up, you know, there's a, in our culture, there's a certain way of life. It's called Fa'a Samo. And the Fa'a Samoan way is a way of life. And ultimately it stems from, you know, being joy, it's your faith, your family, love and humility, right? Those are the four really core things of our way of life, of the Samoan people. And if you were to, you know, we kind of...

took the name, nickname of like, we're the most happiest people in the Pacific. And I believe it's because of those four things. As I've tried to apply those four things in my life, yeah, life is a little bit better. Just having my faith, my family, my love for all that and humility has been, oh, and respect, forgive me, that's the fifth core. There's respect for one another, that's a big deal. So that's where I'm rooted at, is in the Fatsa'a Moua way.

Jey (54:53.168)

I love that. That's beautiful. All right. Next one here is what grounds you? So when you're feeling all stressy and depressy, what kind of brings you back? What kind of helps you come back down into reality, brings you back down from that?

Patrick Tafua (55:09.52)

that this is the life that I longed for, right? Like I didn't, I grew up without a father. My mom eventually was married, remarried, and I have my stepdad who let me give him his flowers. Like he came in when I was 10 years old, 11 years old, and you know, I love him. He's my dad. If someone's gonna ask who's my dad, it's gonna be him. But you know, in all reality, like there were still some of that.

emptiness without my actual biological father in my life, right? So what brings me back is just like, this is the life I looked for. This is the life I longed for, the being a dad. And you know, yeah, it sucks at times. But like, no, like, this is what I wanted. You know, there were times in my life kind of not, we won't dive into it, but like, I was deep into alcoholism. Like I was, you know, I lived a little bit of a sheltered life and got in college.

went a little crazy, you know, from where I was until bartending and all that, it got a little nuts for me. And I recognize, you know, wait, this is when I was trying to come back to God and come back to Christ in my life and understanding that, the value of that in my life, I realized like what I was looking for was this. You know, I want to be a dad, I wanted to be a partner, a husband. And sometimes when the days suck, it's like, hold on, just take a step back. This is what you asked for, you know.

Now go, don't suck. Go, go, go back into it.

Jey (56:35.648)

I love that. All right, last one here. I'm going to set the scene for you. Let's say we're at the park. We're at the park. You're playing with your kids. I'm playing with my kids. But I see you. So I just look up. I see you. You're happy. You're smiling. You're joyful. You're cheery. You're bright-eyed, bushy-tailed. I'm the opposite. I'm stressy, depressy, deep, dark bags under my eyes. I look tired, run down, beaten up, all the things. We don't know each other. That's important here.

Patrick Tafua (56:41.584)

Okay.

Jey (57:04.22)

I look up, you look up, we make eye contact across the park, classic Hallmark movie, love story moment. Look up and then I approach you. I walk over to you and I'm like, look man, I don't know you, you don't know me. You look happy, you look joyful. I'm not, I'm the opposite. And you can tell, like I reek of the low vibes. Like I reek of these low vibes. I look tired, sad, down, depressed. I look dark. And I'm like, what's your secret sauce, man?

What do you got going on that I don't got going on? In that moment, you get one, one and a half pieces of advice to leave with me.

Patrick Tafua (57:48.187)

Um.

Patrick Tafua (57:52.304)

Honestly, what I would be doing in that scenario, first before any advice is given, I'm always trying to seek to understand before being understood. I really take that to heart. So if I see you coming at me with those vibes, how are you doing? What's up? Sometimes as men, we just need a platform to just talk. And sometimes that's what I can give without even giving much, you know? It's just, how are you?

just simply asking that question and showing that my walls are down my guy, holler at me. Let's talk. I would do that. I would just say, I would intently ask, how are you doing? Before I go about giving any advice that would be relevant or not, because I don't know what you want to know, you know, because I don't know what you don't know, you know, but I appreciate. So I guess let's just like, let's go on this hallmark scene. I love it. Dude, say, oh, hey, nice to meet you, man.

Jey (58:47.316)

Mm-hmm.

Patrick Tafua (58:52.908)

cool, awesome, or not awesome, that sucks. You know, like, what is it you're struggling with, dude? Like, I get it, I've been there, you know? I've always felt this way, so take away the scene, like, feel felt found in the way of sales. I don't know if you've heard of this theme, right? Like, I've applied that wholeheartedly in my life and approach to anyone who's gonna approach me with this manner of anything in life. It's like, hold on, let me see how you feel. Okay, yeah, I felt that way and here's what I found.

Because what's the point of me throwing out all this wisdom if that's not what you're looking for? That's not what you were asking, you know? So I would wholeheartedly first ask, how are you doing? What's going on? Let me be where you're at first before I just talk down at you. Let me see you eye to eye. Let me know what's going on. That's what I would do.

Jey (59:26.277)

Mm-hmm.

Jey (59:41.588)

I love that. I love that. That's beautiful. Well, that's that wraps us up, Patrick. Tell us one more time the IG handle where people can connect with you, follow you along, get more of you.

Patrick Tafua (59:46.877)

Damn it.

Patrick Tafua (59:53.124)

Yeah, man, as you see me on Instagram, I'm at adatallorianlife. We'll be launching our website and full things go in a couple days here. You know, or yeah, a couple days. Well, I'll have a blog and everything up there, but adatallorianlife is where you'll find me. Love availability, reliability, this is the way.

Jey (01:00:12.304)

Love that. This is the way. On that note, Patrick, thank you so much for your time today. It's much appreciated.

Patrick Tafua (01:00:17.584)

You're awesome, brother. I appreciate your man. We'll see you on