Summary
Matt Noonan, a coach with 15 years of experience, discusses his background in coaching and his work with dads to help them reclaim their strength and athleticism. He also talks about the opportunities and challenges faced by Australian players in American football. Matt emphasizes the importance of overcoming mental and emotional hurdles in training and motivates parents to pursue physical activities. He highlights the impact of Dugitzo training and encourages men to start their fitness journey by taking the first step. The conversation explores the importance of a long-term mindset and realistic expectations in martial arts training. It emphasizes the need for consistency and the impact of training on individuals' lives. The discussion also touches on seeking help for mental health and the significance of self-care. The concept of the well-balanced dad diet is introduced, highlighting the importance of physical and mental well-being. The conversation concludes with a focus on quality time with family and the importance of taking action and making changes to achieve desired outcomes. In this conversation, Matt Noonan discusses the importance of taking responsibility for personal health and well-being. He emphasizes the need to shift from making excuses to taking action to improve physical and mental states. Matt suggests starting with simple activities like going for a walk to create time for oneself and increase physical activity. He also highlights the significance of creating a positive worldview for children, focusing on how they view themselves rather than the world. Matt encourages being present and building strong relationships with kids, as well as setting a strong foundation for them to navigate life successfully.
Takeaways
Overcoming mental and emotional hurdles is crucial in training and achieving fitness goals.
Showing up and consistently doing the hard work is the first step in any fitness journey.
Dugitzo training can have a significant impact on physical and mental well-being.
Parents should prioritize their own fitness and set an example for their children.
Australian players face challenges in transitioning to American football but have opportunities to play at the international level. Take responsibility for your personal health and well-being.
Shift from making excuses to taking action to improve your physical and mental states.
Create a positive worldview for your children by focusing on how they view themselves.
Be present and build strong relationships with your kids.
Set a strong foundation for your kids to navigate life successfully.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Pineapple on Pizza Debate
00:58 Introduction to Matt Noonan and His Platform
02:30 Matt Noonan's Background and Experience in Coaching
03:27 American Football in Australia
06:02 Opportunities for Australian Players in American Football
10:46 Challenges Faced by Australian Players in American Football
14:20 Overcoming Mental and Emotional Hurdles in Training
18:12 Motivating Parents to Pursue Physical Activities
20:39 Helping Clients Overcome Mental and Emotional Hurdles
23:00 The Impact of Dugitzo Training
24:16 Encouraging Men to Start Their Fitness Journey
30:53 Taking the First Step in Starting a Fitness Journey
32:53 Long-Term Mindset and Realistic Expectations
38:14 The Impact of Training on Lives
41:44 Consistency and Long-Term Transformations
47:13 Seeking Help for Mental Health
53:54 The Importance of Self-Care
58:30 The Well-Balanced Dad Diet
01:03:05 Quality Time with Family
01:03:35 Taking Action and Making Changes
01:04:21 Taking Responsibility for Personal Health
01:08:17 Creating a Positive Worldview for Children
01:11:29 Being Present and Building Relationships with Kids
01:14:23 Building a Strong Foundation for Kids
01:15:33 Conclusion and Plugging the Podcast
Transcript jey (00:02.883)
thank you think you to our large stud audience matt welcome on to the show were super happy to have you were psyche to talk to you today before we jump in here feet first into the deep end i have to ask you a quick question it's kind of a running tally on the show it's just very very important to what we do here does pineapple go on pizza
Matt Noonan (00:25.12)
yes yes
aaron (00:29.088)
yeah baby
jey (00:30.443)
oh wow that right well the current score for any of our listeners keeping tally with us is that now six to four to one so aaron's a bit happy about that since he's been kind of the lowner one of the few lowners that things pineapple goes on pizza so i guess you guys can talk and all just sit by um anyway all right back tell us a little bit about you your platform and why you do what you do
Matt Noonan (00:32.64)
yeah
aaron (00:52.328)
uh uh
Matt Noonan (01:00.72)
so i am i'm i'm a coach i i have been a coach now for fifteen years i at the moment i work with dad's predominantly i help dad's really just reclaim their strength and athleticism so i've got a bit of a i guess a fitness first mentality where the body like the health of the body flows into everything else that helps so i help at the moment about fifty different dads
to do that before i started doing that i owned an operator on my own gym for eleven years and so i was lucky enough to do that walk with people help people from all walks of life actually got into coaching through american football so i started i started playing over here in australia when i was in finishing high school and i played that locally for ten years got to do a couple of representative teams and then ended up moving into coaching football
and that kind of led me on the path that i'm on to then go into firstly personal training then into opening up my own gym and then going from there so i'm on the sunshine coast in australia got a young family so i've got a son and a daughter my son's for my daughter seven been married for almost ten years now and yeah that's kind of me in a really intense nutshell and there's obviously a lot i can go into there but that's covering off kind of the last twenty years
aaron (02:06.228)
oh yeah
aaron (02:19.328)
m
yeah yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (02:30.22)
my life
jey (02:33.123)
no i definitely covered all the basis there so you mentioned that you you train you've been training people for what like fifteen years now right
Matt Noonan (02:42.92)
yeah fifteen years now
jey (02:45.323)
and that's between football when you say american football do you mean socker or like football football like
Matt Noonan (02:53.8)
no agreed i mean american football i mean gridiron like what hat we n f l football yeah
aaron (02:55.148)
no he means american
jey (02:58.683)
like nell football okay okay i'm learning i'm learning
Matt Noonan (03:02.54)
yeah that's what sometimes have to distinguish try and distinguish that because it's american football australians would refer to it as gridiron most australians would refer to it as ridin so sometimes it's just getting the terminology right but obviously for you guys it's probably football that's
aaron (03:02.668)
yeah
yeah
jey (03:15.443)
okay
jey (03:25.683)
so you go ahead
aaron (03:27.428)
well so i didn't know that it's really prominent like that in australia are there like leagues around to play in
Matt Noonan (03:33.66)
yeah so there there are there's local leagues so i like i grew up playing all sorts of sports we grew i grew up in new south like rural part of new south wales where down near the victorian border which is where predominantly a f l so that's kind of what i was exposed to from a young age for a sport i don't know if you've ever seen a f l but there it's basically like everyone's punting the ball back and forth to each other and trying to score i v punting the ball back and forth on a
which is like almost twice the size of an american football field and i grew up playing that and then we moved up to queensland and queensland is a rugby league state so it's a different code of football so i started playing that when all the way through high school and in grade and i was okay at it i was never great and then in grade twelve i had a friend that we found a local american football club and he said come and ave a go at this and i just like i fell in love with it at that point it was its
a very fringe spots it's a very fringe sport sports grown massively since i first started playing but when i first started playing there was still orbutlikethere was an organized league in each state which there still is now we have i've been lucky enough to coach on like national teams as well to so they for under nineteen so the youth football programs they've you know we've been able to go over to mexico
aaron (04:49.568)
yeah
aaron (04:58.628)
oh
Matt Noonan (05:03.42)
china and playing the world cup that the international football federation like organized so there's while it's not like one of the top tier sport sports i've heard there's still organized leagues over here
aaron (05:07.628)
yeah yeah
jey (05:18.123)
that's really cool so the if is like indoor football
aaron (05:18.228)
yeah
Matt Noonan (05:21.14)
no it's iff is the name of the governing league so it's f f which is international football international american football federation or something like that so it's actual you know it's outdoor football pads and helmets the whole lot the difference s like save for example with the with the u nine the under nineteen well cup that we played in you're looking at kind of di three n i like college kids that are playing you're not going
aaron (05:27.228)
yeah
aaron (05:33.828)
yeah
jey (05:34.623)
okay i see
aaron (05:40.328)
yah yah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (05:50.96)
get you you're not going to get your kids that you give one give to college recruits playing against our guys who you have limited exposure to the sport
aaron (05:53.528)
yeah yeah
oh
yeah yeah
jey (06:02.203)
yeah because those dive one tip two guys are probably the ones that are getting looked at by tons of other places
aaron (06:03.028)
yeah
Matt Noonan (06:08.42)
hundred percent and it's a it's an amateur sport like at that level it's amateur it's not professional so those kids that are looking and we've got like i've been lucky enough that we've i've had some kids that i coached at a local level actually go over and obtained scholarships to most recently had one one in hawaii and one at indiana who i think transferring at the moment but like we've got some kids that are able to go and get scholarships at these dive ones and even some of them opped out
jey (06:14.963)
hm
aaron (06:16.428)
yeah
aaron (06:20.928)
oh
aaron (06:26.628)
oh yeah
aaron (06:32.728)
yeah
aaron (06:36.528)
yeah
Matt Noonan (06:38.26)
playing for the national team just because the chance of getting injured is just not worth them losing the scholarship that the opportunity that they've got to go and play under a scholarship
aaron (06:40.428)
yeah yeah
jey (06:52.963)
no that per cent makes sense
aaron (06:54.448)
yeah i got it so you know it's interesting have you has there been any news of you know the x f l picking from your local leagues i mean i know it's it's probably a long shot but i do know that they're trying to diversify and find talent from you know all across the world as opposed to just in america
Matt Noonan (07:08.08)
i don't
Matt Noonan (07:16.12)
yeah not that not that i've heard to be fair like even though i started in that sport i've been pretty kind of stepped away from coaching that particular sport around covid where were kind of set to go and do the world up in twenty twenty and that got canceled because there was obviously no international travel and at that point we had because i had the gym at that point that jim got shut down so there was other things that were on my plate where i kind of gave away the coaching
the sport but i'm still trying to keep my finger on the pulse with what's going on so nothing really from the f l there's actually a fairly big push from the f l coming into like australian not so much from a team but like talent talent recruitment like there's a couple of like jordan my larder who plays on he's a lineman for s a tackle for the eagles you know he's he's australian there's a few like mainly offensive line
defensive line there's a few players outside of punters that have come from australia that go through i think it's like the international player pathway or whatever it is that they call so there's more emphasis from the n f l kind of coming down the pipe line to look for talent to go over but not so much from the f
aaron (08:39.368)
yeah i know i remember pretty recently jarred hayne coming from rugby i was it was a pretty good stand out just never caught on but you know that's that's so interesting i can't wait to see if that develops you know there's so much talent now
Matt Noonan (08:42.48)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (08:47.8)
yeah
Matt Noonan (08:52.78)
there's been there's been within the sport there's probably been more like like australia australia as a country only has i think i think from memory like it's got twenty eight million people right so it's not a super big like that's the that's the entire country but we've had like jarrett hayne has been the most high profile one but there's guys that have had a lot more success than him like there's adam adam got who's a kid that played local
ball down in victoria who's now i think he's in his ninth year he's playing for the jags at the moment then you've got like jordan malade even though he den't played local football he didn't have the profile of jared hayne in rugby league um before he went over there and and then you've got like jessie williams who played local football like he was he played for alabama for a few years and then played for the sea hawks like there's been some guys that have gone over there outside
jey (09:51.883)
yeah
Matt Noonan (09:52.7)
the kickers and punters who have had a lot like a good amount of success in the sport and i think one thing that like the league in australia is doing a lot better now is there high lighting those guys rather than the high profile guys like that have gone over there and maybe not have have had as much success
jey (10:15.383)
but like guys who still went over and i did it
Matt Noonan (10:17.56)
yeah and actually did it for a good amount of time you know like you know there's guys that are actually still playing in the league who have had you know multiple year ten years whereas and you know there's jarethayne as a human being is a little bit of a dirt bag just personal opinion you know he's actually just been released from jail so that's that gives you a bit of a that's that's that's how that's going for him but you know
jey (10:20.983)
yeah
aaron (10:25.528)
oh
aaron (10:29.928)
my
yeah yeah
jey (10:42.923)
that's how that's going for him
yeah
Matt Noonan (10:47.62)
some decent human beings that have actually gone over there and are having like decent careers like you know jordan who's i think what he's maybe in his fifth year now and then you've got like adam goes who's like nine years like you've got these people that are actually doing it properly who have gone through the right way and not just kind of ridden the coat tails off the back of success in other sports
aaron (10:48.628)
yeah yeah
oh
aaron (10:57.128)
yeah
aaron (11:02.728)
oh
aaron (11:09.928)
oh h
jey (11:11.163)
yeah no i mean there's there's one guy on my seat seahawks michael dickon he's from sydney or punter and of course it's it's hard to find some of those guys and the n fell outside of like the kicking and the kicking game because it's just so so much more common that those are the guys that are like high lighted and kind of picked out from these countries by colleges so no i think it's important that they
Matt Noonan (11:16.32)
yeah
Matt Noonan (11:31.64)
yeah
aaron (11:36.028)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (11:38.88)
well there's such
jey (11:41.123)
they highlight these other dudes from the other positions
Matt Noonan (11:43.82)
there's such a different skill set to what happens in our sports like our sport like our primary sports over here when it comes to like the other positions on the field like there's just such a vastly different level of knowledge and skill that needs to be had but like punting yes there is a lot of technicality that goes in it but if you grew up in the same area that like i grew up in my early years like we are literally punting the ball back and forwards to each other in our spare time
aaron (11:49.728)
oh
jey (11:52.063)
m
aaron (11:55.628)
yeah yeah
oh
yeah
yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (12:13.96)
so to nat it's a natural progression that like there's a lot of people with very big legs out out here that can slot into a team and pump the ball like decent hang time and know the mechanics of it because it's just some it's just exposure and you know that's the thing with anyone that's good at sport like exposure sometimes the biggest thing that you need in order to actually get good at something
aaron (12:15.628)
yeah yeah
yeah
aaron (12:28.328)
oh
aaron (12:34.028)
yeah yeah
yeah
yeah
jey (12:41.143)
yeah no one hundred per cent that's very common over here to where weir taught from like a young age like we're throwing the ball sort of punting it kicking it so throwing you're always throwing a ball back and forth football any ball it's always throwing over here so that's interesting that it's so different one's arms one's legs
aaron (12:44.928)
yeah
Matt Noonan (13:04.98)
yeah and i mean there's transferable skill like athleticism is transferable like it's universal but then there's actual game knowledge and when you've had if you're looking at you know say an offensive lineman you're looking at somebody who's had ten like you know let's say you know how many years you're in high school like let's say three or four years in high school and then three or four years in college so you've got six to eight years to play catch like play catch up on
aaron (13:09.728)
yeah
aaron (13:15.928)
yeah
aaron (13:25.928)
yeah
aaron (13:31.328)
yeah
Matt Noonan (13:34.92)
just knowledge of basic techniques like that's a deficit that you it's going to be very hard to make up there's like you would have to be have an exceptional level of athleticism and the fact is like when you're at that level everyone's got an exceptional level of athleticism like that's why they're there so it's a hard like that's where that side of things for people to come from australia and be able to go
jey (13:44.283)
yeah
aaron (13:53.228)
ye
jey (13:56.043)
exactly
aaron (13:58.428)
yeah
yah yah
Matt Noonan (14:04.9)
and play at that level and do it for such a long time like it speaks to their work ethic in their character to be able to get to that point because they're making up a deficit which is a very very hard deficit to overcome
aaron (14:06.128)
yeah
jey (14:20.823)
most definitely know that makes that makes a lot of sense because i mean it's just not here you know those defensive and offensive linemen are being caught the specific stances that they're going to use for the rest of their lives in the like the progression through college football and to the nfl you know if they're of the athletic profile that matches you know but at the end of the day i thougticism can still win out athleticism and work at can definitely win out
aaron (14:20.928)
yeah
aaron (14:24.628)
oh h
jey (14:50.623)
in a lot of cases because even though they're taught something that could be smart enough to have the work ethic they might not have the athleticism or visa versa they could have all the athleticism and zero of the work ethic to put in the work to actually get there into outwork those other freak athletes just like them to get that spot that they want if they wanted bad enough
aaron (14:54.628)
oh
Matt Noonan (15:13.88)
yeah and there's there's a kipping point you know like where um you know i've been lucky enough that i've coached a lot of young men like from kind of thirteen to nineteen when i first started coaching coaching football that was kind of the the age group that i am like i was focused on coaching and it's you meet these kids that are so athletically gifted and so athletically superior to most other kids there but they have no drive and no where
aaron (15:19.128)
yeah
aaron (15:23.328)
yeah
aaron (15:27.928)
yeah
yeah eh
Matt Noonan (15:43.74)
ethic because they've always had that they've always been better than everybody so they've never really had to work for anything in their life and then when it gets to the point of end where all of a sudden i'm in a scenario where everyone has the same level of athleticism that i like i've got now like it's that mac break point where the only thing that's going to separate those guys is going to be the work like the work that you're willing to put in
aaron (15:44.228)
oh
aaron (15:48.228)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
aaron (16:00.728)
yeah yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (16:13.84)
has to be more than the other person because the level of athleticism nails out and there's some kids that have so athletically gifted that when they get put in that situation they just fold you know like they just don't know what to do because they've never had to work for it before and it's like it's it's almost a sad thing to see because sometimes it gets to a point where you can't like you can't teach that to them because it's it's too it's too late to be taught and that's a
aaron (16:15.428)
oh
aaron (16:19.028)
yeah
aaron (16:27.428)
yah yah
aaron (16:36.228)
oh
yeah
oh yeah
Matt Noonan (16:43.68)
or they don't want it to be taught because they just don't have the drive to go that little bit further either
aaron (16:50.228)
oh
jey (16:50.723)
yeah i know that's that's super common in american professional sports like you see a year over year every single major north american sports baseball football basketball hawke socker you see this these highly toted kids coming out at seventeen eighteen nineteen all the way up to like twenty two years old and they're just amazing you know athletes coming into the professional sport of their choice and then they get there and they just come
aaron (16:55.928)
oh
jey (17:20.563)
lately flail out where it's like man how did this person guy who was just amazing in college who was playing against top knot competition in you know the freaking c with all these other top ten schools he dominated them but now he's here and he's the worst player on the team you know goes back to what you're saying there athletically gifted and they've only relied on the athleticism because i've never had to put in the work now
aaron (17:25.928)
oh h h
jey (17:50.503)
time to put in the work they're nowhere to be seen
aaron (17:50.988)
m
aaron (17:54.508)
so i'm interested so with your training you know what are some of the things that you you think as a parent you can do to combat you know some of the negativity and help motivate them to to you push their goal post a little bit further
Matt Noonan (18:12.64)
i think it's for me for me like as a parent personally and this is something because you know you can you can speak on it as a coach when you don't have kids but then as soon as you have kids your whole thought and dynamic changes around it and it's it's one of those things where what i think needs to be done hasn't actually changed but understanding what has to be done as a parent like it changes the way i think about it like you have to put your kids in positions
where they're going to fail and they have to work out how to how to get out of it like and doing that as a parent like is easier said than done and i'm not talking about like catastrophic failure because we don't want to put them in a position where they're going to get hurt we don't want to put them in a position where like you know it's going to cause permanent damage in some way but controlled environment where they have to learn to work like works it out and
out of stuff like that's that's like the biggest thing i think because some of these cautionary tales that i've seen they've never been faced with enough adversity where they've had to go right like now it's time for me to actually push through and keep moving forward or i've got to be a little bit resilient in this situation to shift my mind set in my mentality to right now it's time to actually put in the work and that's this
aaron (19:34.328)
oh yeah
Matt Noonan (19:42.46)
so many i mean there's so many like that's for me s the number one thing um and then just letting them understand that that like work has to be done like there's no short cuts there's no easy fix like it sounds rararamotivational speaker and i don't like to come across that way but that's just the way it is you know like that's it's life
aaron (19:45.928)
yah yah
yeah
jey (20:09.243)
no one hundred percent of grade so when you're coaching and you're working with these clients and you're working with these kids especially physical isn't always the hardest part of it right there's the mental and then the the emotional aspect of it as part of your training how do you help your clients like whether it's a child a dad or mix of the two or anyone you've worked with in the past how do you help them get over those hurdles
aaron (20:11.528)
oh
jey (20:39.883)
when those hurdles come because you can you can plateau physically easily and then you get messed up in between in between the years and what not so what's your approach in those situations
aaron (20:41.528)
oh
Matt Noonan (20:53.16)
so i mean first like biggest thing is it's but things are always going to be context dependent right like it's going to be dependent on the individual and the situation like that's and that's the thing but like if we if we unpack it a little bit and kind of go back and let's say somebody's plated in their training or their sport and they want to try and overcome that right we've got to kind of go like try and get that back to the point
jey (21:04.483)
yeah of course
aaron (21:04.928)
yah ah
oh
yeah yeah
aaron (21:18.228)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (21:23.08)
where was that failure point and then work out why it failed like what was what was the reason that it failed and then if it's a if it's a mental thing and it's a confidence thing like confidence comes from raps confidence comes from feeling adept at something so if we can get it back to a point where we're doing maybe a lesser version of their activity or we're owning a skill which is going to make us better at something and then getting good report
aaron (21:37.028)
oh
aaron (21:40.928)
yeah
Matt Noonan (21:52.98)
tons of that so that then when we revisit that particular scenario we're better equipped to deal with it and not only that like we've we've addressed that underlying point of failure but i mean it's so context depend and it's like it depends on what it is that they failed at if they you know let's say for example someone's failed to lift or they don't feel like they can lift something if it's mental yeah sometimes like it just general g up talk like you know come on let's go like
aaron (22:00.328)
oh
oh yeah
oh
aaron (22:10.828)
oh yeah
aaron (22:18.828)
yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (22:23.08)
a bit of a reb up can help but if they're that in their head that it's very hard to overcome sometimes we need to take a step right back understand exactly what's going on here and then address any deficits or deficiencies that may have led to that failure yeah i mean that's it's that's a tough one to kind of answer just because there are a lot of here's a lot of variables there that it makes it makes it hard to give
aaron (22:26.628)
yeah
aaron (22:32.428)
yeah
aaron (22:37.528)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (22:53.04)
really concise answer
jey (22:55.943)
no that makes sense that makes sense
aaron (22:56.628)
ah
aaron (23:00.188)
yeah so you know it's so funny recently my daughter and i we've started dugittu classes and you know when we got you as a potential guest and we're going through all of your media i was i was just so shocked because a lot of what you preach and what you post is exactly what i'm going through now you know the program doesn't really specify you know that uplifting of fathers and you know getting them back into their their prime states and helping them be the best they can be
but you know just naturally you know uh the digito place that we go to has has done that for me and for my daughter as well you know it's helped her you know she's she's competing more with herself than you know with the kids in her class you know she's she's looking forward to going and learning a new technique or being better and you know i see that same thing in me you know it's completely changed me so you know
give us give us what does that do for a man and why would you encourage that for someone that's kind of on the fringe you know doesn't doesn't really know if it's for them like how do you push them into it and what are some of the things that come out of it
Matt Noonan (24:16.96)
i'm a massive advocate of digits obviously if you've spent any time on my social media you'll see that i love it i've done it for seven and a half years now but like if we the big thing there's so many things with digito right that i think universal across any physical activity the first thing is getting there and just showing like it's hard and doing hard stuff especially as a man and doing it consistently and overcoming
like it just it sets a level of belief in you that you can go and take on other things and as a dad it's it's sometimes hard to overcome all the things that need to be done and and we don't celebrate the things that we have done and the things that we've done well but going and doing something hard over and over and over again just sets you up to be able to tackle anything
aaron (25:09.028)
yeah
aaron (25:13.628)
yeah
Matt Noonan (25:16.22)
really and it doesn't mean that it's going to be easy when you get to the point that you can tackle that but that helps and that doesn't matter whether it's dugitzo or it's lifting weights or it's going and doing you know something that some form of physical activity i think just physically exerting ourselves is just something that is so primal within our d n a when we connect with that it almost unlocks and unleashes this this thing that may be we didn't know that we had inside us or for some dad we
aaron (25:25.028)
oh
oh
aaron (25:32.628)
oh
aaron (25:39.428)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (25:46.42)
used to have inside us and we've kind of lost along the way of trying to provide for our family trying to make sure that we're a good husband good father and we're doing all these things for everything else so we four go the things that we want to do to make sure that they're all taken care of and that's that natural provider urge which is really hard for a lot of us to overcome and like it's something that like i felt guilty to when i first had had kids when when my daughter first came along just because
aaron (25:46.628)
yeah
aaron (25:58.928)
oh
aaron (26:10.528)
oh
Matt Noonan (26:16.42)
that's just what we need to do we need to make sure that they're taking care of like this little humans come into the world and their one hundred percent depending on you and your partner so if we don't take care of them who's going to like no one is and that's it's it's easy to get caught up on that and think that we need to put everything in it there and then once we start spending some time for ourselves we need to understand that it actually enhances every other thing that happens in our life and then if we couple into that we're doing something like you
aaron (26:18.228)
yah yah
aaron (26:28.088)
ye
yeah yeah
oh
yeah yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (26:46.76)
we're doing something training something some form of training where we're actually physically exerting ourselves to the point where we're struggling and then we're overcoming that struggle not only does that feed into us being more capable and we start progressing in something but our confidence starts to build and that's going to flow on to your kids as well to like they're going to pick up on that like if you love something like my son now just about to
aaron (26:48.228)
ye
oh
aaron (26:54.488)
m
oh
aaron (27:01.028)
yeah yeah
aaron (27:15.828)
yeah
Matt Noonan (27:16.3)
un four and every second day is asking me when he can start juge because he sees me like he knows i love it my daughter hasn't been so interested in it at something that like i'm very keen to get her into because i think it's very important for girls to know like have some level of self defense and but that's like that's kind of shooting off into another topic but i think that just doing something hard creates that confidence in us but then more importantly
aaron (27:19.328)
yeah
aaron (27:24.288)
m
oh
yeah
yeah yeah
oh
aaron (27:41.628)
oh
Matt Noonan (27:46.3)
like as a dad if you've gone from like a lot of dads that i deal with have had like some level of athleticism in their past right they used to do something that they enjoyed whether it would go to the gym whether it re play sports or whatever the case might be and they just don't know how to make it fit in their current life because they've got other commitments that are different to what they had when they when they were doing that thing previously
aaron (27:46.528)
yeah
yeah yeah
aaron (27:58.028)
oh
aaron (28:04.328)
yah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (28:16.6)
and what really needs to happen is they need to almost let go of that previous life draw a line in the sand and go right i'm going back to do this thing because i know i enjoy it and that's a very important thing like you have to do something you enjoy but i'm not attached to the idea that i have to be at this level because a past version of myself was there because that's not fair on like where you are now as as a man as a hum
aaron (28:24.028)
oh yeah
yeah
aaron (28:37.628)
oh
aaron (28:43.228)
yeah
Matt Noonan (28:46.4)
being and that can suck so much of the enjoyment out of any activity when you're in that constant comparison state of comparing to how far away from something you are compared to where you are now and that's like something that stops so many people dead in their tracks of making any change because they look at the mountain that they've got to climb rather than just focusing on putting one front and foot of one foot in front of the other and taking those steps and starting those winds
aaron (28:49.328)
my
yeah yeah
yeah
oh yeah
yeah
aaron (29:13.228)
oh
aaron (29:17.028)
yeah i love that i mean i can completely relate to everything you just said is like it's like the whole journey you take you know what i mean it's like you know for me it was i finally settled in to the place where living now i was able to know have free time i didn't know what to do with it and you know i've seen it as something for my daughter and then when i hopped on the mat you know i fell in love with wrestling in high school um because i fell out of love with football you know i was in football there
long time since a young age and then you know when i got into high school m i hopped on the mat for the first time i fell in love with it and like you said you know life happened i got away from it um had grow up real quick be dad and you know i i put all my passions to the side and so through this i kind of hoped on the mat and it clicked in my head you know oh i needed this oh this is this is what was missing you know and it's you fill it so much with different thing
in your life whether it be you know video games drinking with your buddy shooting the ship but you know stuff that's very negative you know and this has been a big change in my life so it's you know i'm more accountable with myself do other things to help support me in jugittoso like you know going for a run trying to get the cardio better for the session you know even time management trying to schedule better you know it's eating better everything you know it's a whole life style change and so with something like that
what is something that or what's the first step that someone can take to try and you know start their journey
Matt Noonan (30:53.62)
pleasure as this sounds it's just showing up you know like you've just got it you've just got to show up and do it like you've got to you've got to get out because a lot of people when they go to make a change the only thing stopping the only thing stopping them from making that initial step is themselves right like there's there's reasons and there's excuses and there's like and i think what happens is a lot of people like
itimize excuses as reasons and they make something they can turn you know an antil into a mountain it's like how that they start thinking about worst case scenario and then when you show up and you do it it's actually not that bad now there are going to be things like so jugitzo let's use ugitza as an example like i love it and i think everyone should try it but there are going to be people that probably shouldn't do it
aaron (31:48.628)
oh eh
Matt Noonan (31:53.62)
like if you have if you have injuries that you know somebody towing on your arms or like you know you've got fuse vertebrate in your neck or something like that so you know somebody trying to strangle you is probably not going to be the best thing for your long term health it might not be the best place to start there might be some other starting point such things like that are almost genuine reasons right but for a lot of there's actually less of them than what
aaron (31:55.228)
yah h
yeah
oh
aaron (32:11.928)
yeah yeah
aaron (32:18.428)
yah
oh
Matt Noonan (32:23.44)
most people think i believe like i think a lot of the reasons that stop people from starting really come down to their own mind their own fears and also they're like especially something like jitsu with males like it's that ego it's putting that ego aside and understanding that all right like when i first my mind set when i first went and started digits was like i'm committed to do this for like ten years i'm not going to try and get like a blue belt i'm not going to
aaron (32:25.028)
oh yeah
oh
aaron (32:34.728)
oh
aaron (32:38.028)
yeah
aaron (32:42.628)
yeah
aaron (32:47.528)
yeah
Matt Noonan (32:53.44)
try and get like i'm not concentrating on belts like i understand have the inherent understanding that this is a long term thing and that kind of mind set came about from doing previous martial arts also having coach so many people and seeing that mind set of i'm trying to do it for the short term jigittois not the type of thing you can do for the short time like you're only you do it for six months you're only just starting to understand little bits of stuff like i've been
aaron (32:56.328)
yeah yeah
yeah
yeah yeah
aaron (33:13.028)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (33:23.44)
doing it for seven and a half years and i still learn stuff every time i go to class every time i step on the mat but you only get to that point if you take that long term mind set and it doesn't matter whether it's digito doesn't matter whether it's training as well too taking that long term mind set and then having realistic expectations about where you want to go so you can get past your own ship in the first place showing up to the first step but then also having realistic expectation so then if you know digits one thing but let's say for example some one
aaron (33:28.328)
yeah
yeah yeah
aaron (33:36.928)
oh
aaron (33:44.128)
yeah
aaron (33:51.928)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (33:53.52)
to lose weight or they want to be able to get back in the gym understanding that like probably going and jumping in and doing six times a week if it works in the short terms probably not going to work in the long term but doing three times a week is probably going o be sustainable for the next five or ten years and all i'm going to do is i'm just going to stack those winds that doesn't mean i'm going to show up three times a week every week but for the vast majority of times i'm going to show up and i'm going to do that because i've taken that long term mind set of i'm doing this for
aaron (33:59.028)
yeah yeah
yah
aaron (34:11.427)
oh
aaron (34:17.828)
oh
oh yeah
Matt Noonan (34:24.08)
the future rather than just doing it for now and i think that's also why a lot of older men get like attract like where i train there are a lot of quite i'm quite masters athletes so over thirties and i think that's why a lot of older men get attracted to jugitzu because they have that mentality shift around like i'm ready to commit to this for the long hole i'm not here for it for the short term because i look in hindsigeand i think if i had started this in my early twenties i'm not sure
aaron (34:38.228)
oh
aaron (34:42.328)
oh yeah
yeah
aaron (34:51.028)
oh
oh
Matt Noonan (34:53.48)
i would have stuck with it because i don't think i would have had the maturity and that mentality to stick with it i think it would have been too much of a kick to my ego and potentially would have given up now i'm super stubborn so i might have also just been like stubborn my way through but you know it's it's one of those things that's what i reckon i think just first youve just got to do it but then secondly having a little bit of a realistic expectation about what you want to get out
aaron (35:03.828)
oh yeah
yeah yeah
yeah eh
Matt Noonan (35:23.54)
it is one way to make sure that you can consistently stick to it and then continue to show up afterwards
aaron (35:26.428)
oh
aaron (35:30.228)
yeah
jey (35:35.463)
mostly men i love all of that that so true i mean the mind set you talked about there you have to think the long term and you have to think realistically what you're going to want out of it and that's how you can approach so many different situations just in life like what am i going to want out of this whether it's relationships or a difficult conversation you have with your significant other or your kids or possibly like your kids school or like another parent or whatever the heck it is
aaron (35:37.728)
yeah
jey (36:05.643)
you know you have to think like what my realistically wanting out of this and then i love what you said about stacking the winds could you have to stack those winds on top of each other you have to celebrate those individual milestones and accomplishments along the way for me personally you know i'm a baseball player and i love what you said a little bit earlier to about kind of letting go of that past self because i was you know even now up to the last couple of years
aaron (36:07.728)
yeah yeah
jey (36:35.603)
i've gone and i've tried to play like um adult wood bat league baseball here locally and trying to replicate a version of myself from ten years ago that was being recruited to play college baseball before an elbow injury and i've been trying to replicate thack get that back get that back get my shoulder back get my throwing and everything back and honestly clicked for me like im
aaron (36:37.728)
yeah yeah
jey (37:05.403)
not that any more i'm ten years older n eleven years older now my elbow doesn't work the same i don't throw as hard you know it s nothing like that so that was that was personally the super insigtle for me um but when you're you know
aaron (37:07.728)
oh h h
jey (37:26.483)
helping someone kind of like go of that that past selves that they saw as the best version of themselves quote on quote and now they see themselves let's say the worst version of themselves in their eye specifically obviously you as their coach don't see him is that you see him where they're at of course but when they start taking those steps and you kind of hit on it um what impact so have you trained anyone
aaron (37:28.528)
oh yeah
jey (37:56.323)
for like five ten years at this point what kind of impact has that had like just looking at those people who you've trained with for years upon years now like what have you seen like your impact being their lives and what has changed in their lives
aaron (37:58.528)
oh
Matt Noonan (37:59.undefined)
yeah
Matt Noonan (38:14.92)
so this is like one of the this is the thing that keeps me like going back to coaching like the reason why i like i love doing it and why you know someone that started off as a sports coach who loved the art of coaching and teaching people things transition into like to help people basically like transform but i'll tell you a story about a client that i had at the gym and he started with us when he was forty five and he wrote we had in the gym
aaron (38:22.128)
oh
aaron (38:25.328)
yeah
aaron (38:32.328)
oh
aaron (38:35.728)
oh
aaron (38:40.228)
yeah
aaron (38:44.628)
oh yeah
Matt Noonan (38:44.84)
a wall which was a black board wall and we used to every quarter every three months we get everybody to wipe wipe their goals off and we re write their goals up and i remember within a month of him coming coming in he wrote on the board he goes t train till i'm fifty and then so he wrote on the board that he wants to train and i i remembered that and we kept going with it and we kept chipping away at it and then five years later he came to me and goes do you remember that i wrote on the board
aaron (38:56.428)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (39:14.74)
i wanted to keep training till i was fifty and like yeah and he showed me a photo he showed me a photo of himself like himself when he first started when he finished he goes look at this and like he and there was complete like physical transformation but he goes that's like the physical transformation is great but he's also he was an older dad like he didn't he wasn't a dad until he was in his forties for the first time so at the time that he started with us like i think his son was maybe like
aaron (39:18.728)
yeah
aaron (39:24.728)
oh
oh
yeah
aaron (39:34.228)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (39:45.64)
maybe it's like five or six but at that stage when he got to fifty he his son was starting to play his own sports and everything like that but he goes you know the best thing i can go and i can teach my kids cricket i can teach them how i can run around with them and i don't have to think twice about it if i have tried to do that five years ago like i wouldn't have done it i would have actually avoided doing it in fear of being embarrassed of doing it and like that's that's the thing that like when
aaron (39:46.628)
yeah
yeah
aaron (39:55.028)
oh yeah
aaron (40:02.028)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (40:15.36)
i talked to people and when we're trying to let go of like that past self it's like think about what the think about like five years from now and something that you want to do in this life that you're in now because your past self didn't know what it was like to have kids didn't know what it was like to be able to run around with them didn't know like the type of things you're avoiding because maybe you're not in the best place that you could be right now like and let's set goal
aaron (40:20.928)
yeah
aaron (40:28.428)
oh
aaron (40:32.628)
yeah
aaron (40:38.528)
oh
oh
Matt Noonan (40:44.84)
s based around that scenario and because that scenario is a completely different scenario that you are working towards compared to what whatever scenario you are working towards in your twenties your late teams or whatever the case might be because for all of us as dad's like if we can attach a goal to our family because for most of us like me included that's like the number one priority to us there's a very small percentage
aaron (40:52.728)
oh
oh yeah
aaron (41:04.328)
oh
oh
jey (41:14.263)
hundred
Matt Noonan (41:14.78)
us that are going to give up on that like moving forward you know and that's and that's that's the thing i like if we're willing to accept that we're working towards something in this phase of our life and this chapter of our life that's going to be completely independent from something previously and this is where like i'm not a big fan in focusing on body fat or the weight on the scales because they're all arbitrary numbers and if we do the right things and we take the right actions habits and behaviors those things will move in the right
aaron (41:15.128)
yeah
jey (41:17.543)
well hunrprcirt
aaron (41:18.528)
yeah
jey (41:21.403)
yeah
aaron (41:27.828)
oh
oh
aaron (41:34.828)
oh
aaron (41:39.528)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (41:44.82)
action but we also don't want to be we want to be able to go to the kid's birthday party and have a piece of cake have our beer with like actually enjoy life and some of those things don't allow for us to do that and that's part of being like a well balanced dad but and that's where you know we've got to understand what is it that we want to work for what's important to us and like then we can start to set out some goals based around that and that is how we keep moving forward and how we keep going
aaron (41:47.428)
yeah yeah
aaron (42:01.728)
yeah
aaron (42:09.728)
yeah
aaron (42:14.428)
yeah
Matt Noonan (42:14.76)
like those long term transformations and it doesn't even it takes people i think less time than what they actually think i heard it saying and i don't know what said i but like as human beings we severely under estimate we severely over estimate what we can do in a year and severely under estimate what we can do in ten
aaron (42:19.428)
yeah
aaron (42:24.328)
oh
yah h
aaron (42:35.728)
oh
Matt Noonan (42:36.8)
and like that's just that's just one thing that like that's a saying that has always stuck in my mind since i've heard it especially as like a coach and somebody who's owned a gym and now working with people on like transformation is like hey you got to be willing to invest the time to do this because there's no magic for despite what you might read on instacram like there's no magic formula there's no magic pill it's just consistent work over a period of time and whoever can be the most consistent over the longest period
aaron (42:39.228)
yeah i love that
Matt Noonan (43:06.8)
is going to see the best results
aaron (43:12.148)
yeah and i think it's funny you bring that up because you know it's the same even on you know the financial side of things you know it's the best time to ever buy is now you know it's ten years ago you know actually but you know if you haven't done that you know right now is the best time to do it
Matt Noonan (43:21.2)
yep
Matt Noonan (43:30.34)
but i think kids kids to having kids has a way of making us focus on the long term like because we start thinking about their future we start thinking about what we want like what we want for them and so that's why i think you see like so many dads and moms like when they get to a point where you know like yourself are where life's kind of settled down a little bit and now i can go and commit to something that's got a better time for me and they stick to something for so long because
aaron (43:32.868)
so i
aaron (43:38.548)
yeah
Matt Noonan (44:00.58)
it's it's even though it is time for them they almost don't see it that they see it as an investment for their kids and for their family and that's like it's been such an eye opener for me since i've had kids like you hear scenes like i want to i want to be this way so i can walk my daughter down the aisle and then when you have a kid of you like you have a daughter of your own it's like like i kind of understood the context
but now i get like the deeper meaning behind that like i understand what it is now to think like my daughter my daughter now who's turned like you know eighteen years down the track like i get what it is to think that far in advance and you you know i may have in my younger years thought like in five and ten year plans but like i don't think i was actually thinking of things on that level
aaron (44:53.628)
oh
aaron (45:01.628)
oh
jey (45:01.703)
now it's crazy how we go from thinking like when we're young when young bachelors were single um just kind of going through life you know were thinking very arbitrary like five year plans like oh i want to look like this when we go in to the gym then i want to have this you know type of life you know it is very just it's very shallow it's not very deep like you mentioned and then once you have kids and you have a family and you're raising these these little human beings is like
aaron (45:04.928)
oh
Matt Noonan (45:23.56)
m
jey (45:31.303)
you deep in your understanding of just like life and the world and the views and everything you want to do to take care of them and it consumes your world it definitely consumes it but you're thinking deeper
aaron (45:34.928)
oh
Matt Noonan (45:42.72)
and that and that's maybe not even it's it's not even shallow you know it's just it's it's we're thinking of ourselves which is all we like which is all we really have to worry about like we like at that point in life that's all we have to worry about is ourselves you know yes we worry about like our mam and our dad and siblings and things like that but like what we do on a daily basis doesn't impact them doesn't have depending on how big it is obviously
aaron (45:48.328)
yeah
yeah
jey (45:52.463)
we not
jey (45:56.563)
yeah
aaron (45:58.128)
yeah
aaron (46:02.128)
yeah yeah
yeah
oh yeah
Matt Noonan (46:12.78)
it can have the ability to impact them but like but what i do on a daily basis right now with my like two little humans that i've helped create in the same house as me who mimic every single thing that i do good and bad like what i do on a daily basis now my actions does affect people that are very very important to me so i've got to be really mindful of what i do and so then it's no longer a
aaron (46:17.728)
yeah
aaron (46:26.928)
oh yeah
yeah yeah
yah h
jey (46:39.763)
m
Matt Noonan (46:42.68)
me it's about them and that can be a that can be a slippery slope the other way as well because we can lose ourselves in the process of thinking that way so it's like it's that fine line it's that balancing act to make sure that you're you're you're in the right you're like in that right gray area where you're not too much about yourself and you're not too much about them you're you're spending enough time on yourself too trying like you benefit them long term and it's hard it's a very hard
aaron (46:42.928)
oh
aaron (46:46.328)
yeah
oh
aaron (46:53.728)
yeah
aaron (46:58.228)
yeah
aaron (47:03.228)
yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (47:13.08)
like it's a hard thing to get to and sometimes it's very hard to get to a happy place and like a lot of dad struggle with it like that was one of the main reasons why i started my podcast because i and why it's been a solopodcast for the most part because i just wanted to talk about like the things that i've been struggling with because like there was there's nothing worse than when you're in the thick of it like feeling like you're completely alone and that's just like
aaron (47:14.828)
yeah yeah
yeah
aaron (47:25.328)
yeah yeah
aaron (47:34.628)
yeah yeah
oh
Matt Noonan (47:42.54)
and that's you know there wasn't a lot of there's a lot more great resources out there now but you know when i first started this thing like three years ago there wasn't and that's yeah
aaron (47:42.828)
yah ah
aaron (47:57.828)
yeah you know and and going going back to it we were just touching on you know um for so long i was worried about you know because my wife and myself we had kids very young jewel jewels the same you know i had to worry about being financially stable setting up a stable home for my kids to live in you know while also working on my relationship with my wife because we're both very young
i mean we're just growing up together you know we're all growing up together and you know it finally got to the spot where you know we're settled down things are doing great kids are doing good you know where i finally got to take a look at myself and you know even now i've been blessed that you know i have a son on the way so i have another you know mouth coming into the world to feed and tend to teach but you know it was then when i found out
aaron (48:54.688)
you know what what kind of man do i want to
project on to my family you know or what kind of precedent do i want to set what kind of example do i want to set for my family you know and it's that's what really this push was you know and it's luckily for me you know god god bless me and everything lined up you know correctly but as you were saying earlier you know it can be so easy to get caught in a funk like that you know and you know where things are in a lining and you're not able to you know self course cure
Matt Noonan (49:28.68)
yeah
aaron (49:30.408)
you know by yourself so you know what what are what can you a test to it and you know tell us about you know reaching out for help and you know what what are some things people can do to you know find what they need and the resources that they can they can use
Matt Noonan (49:46.76)
i think so this is this is actually going to be like different from country to country so like in australia right there's actually you can actually get free mental health help so there's there's hot lines and things like that that you can actually call for free that have qualified psychologist there where you can like actually pick up the phone and talk to somebody you can also walk into a doctor's office and you can get what's called a mental health shared camp
land where you actually get five like visits to a psychologist or a counselor for free that you can go and do so like one of the things because the dads that i'm dealing with a predominantly in australia or that i'm talking to and so the access to free professional help if you're really really really thick in it is there like is there and that's i think i think the one thing for
like this is one thing i'm very mindful of when when i talk about like mental health and this stuff right like i'm not i'm not a counsellor i'm not a psychologist what i help people what i help arm people with is tools to help them basically organize their life and get the most out of their life and for a lot of people i work with that is that can help get them out of that funk it can help turn the corner of that anxiety and depression they need but some
aaron (50:59.628)
yeah yeah
yah yah
Matt Noonan (51:16.66)
ole like that's not enough you need to get professional help and if that's if you're at that point like you need to go and get it know no amount of podcast no talking to your friends or anything like that will like you need to and there's no shame in doing that like you're not less of a man you're not anything like like that needs to be a path for some people for others we just need to be a little bit more open and honest about like how we feel and where we're at with things like
aaron (51:17.628)
yeah yeah
yeah
know for me personally um like talking to my close friends and actually having an open line of communication with them about exactly what was going on like how i was feeling emotional like you know and from like emotionally how i was going also to like if you're in a marriage or you've got a wife you've got somebody that you're living with and you've had kids with like talk to them as well like essentially your best friend you know sometimes it's things that you can't and that's what your friend met
aaron (52:04.828)
oh eh
aaron (52:16.028)
oh
Matt Noonan (52:16.62)
works therefore but you know there's there's a lot of great initiatives in australia that they have around mental health like there's one called ka day which is a day that they have nationally where it's about asking like you may are kay and there's a lot of good stuff coming out about this but i think one thing that i've noticed um there's a lot of people that comment on very deep mental health disorders that aren't equipped to do it i try not to comment on it
aaron (52:20.328)
oh
oh
yeah
aaron (52:31.928)
yeah
aaron (52:38.328)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (52:46.6)
because i know i'm not equipped to so i think you've got to understand where you're at and if it seems like there's no way out and you've got nothing left like there's no shame in going and getting professional help like i've done it before i've no i know a lot of people like in my circle that have gone and done the same thing and it definitely does help and it's just like one of those things you've got to do like big for yourself for your family and for everyone in your life and that's like that's one you've just got
aaron (52:49.928)
yeah
aaron (52:57.328)
yah yah
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (53:16.74)
or like it's such a it's such a big thing that we don't do as man i think we just worry that like it's sin is weak and it shouldn't be
aaron (53:17.428)
yeah yeah
aaron (53:23.328)
yeah
aaron (53:30.048)
yeah you know and this is some thing jewel and i have been touching on for the past couple of weeks you know and i'm so proud of jewel you know he's got his bachelors now and and psychology and you know he's actually diving into this exact work so you know jewel what what are what are some things you're looking forward to in this this new position that you have
jey (53:54.423)
yeah so there's a lot there you know like you mentioned um when it comes to with dad you know it so often that they put themselves on the back burners and we focus so much on our families our kids and it takes it can take a lot of time to come to that place where it's like oh it's finally finally me time finally meet time and that self care gets pushed way way way to the back burner for years upon years upon years upon years deck gage for some men like you know
people from generation before us decades like it's pushed aside never gets talked about and one thing that's just super important you know it's not weak to speak and we are just incredibly behind here in the united states when it comes to these kind of services being widely available that is something i'm emphatically passionate about just we're so behind i mean we're both here on this podcast right now but you're
aaron (54:34.528)
ye
jey (54:54.323)
can folk in your country that someone can walk into their normal primary care doctor any given day of the week say hey i need legitimental health health of help here's five free professional services for you you can do a lot with five sessions of really good intense up therapy you can do a lot um mixing your physical with that you know you're getting things right with your body your diet your brain your emotions everything like that it's incredible
aaron (55:05.628)
yah yah
jey (55:24.523)
you can do with that kind of support system and that in place but also like you said it's important to talk to those around you that you're around most and be all of them because they are your best friends they are your support system they are your backbone you're there backboading our they're yours you know you can't especially for debts it's so common like you said we'll just push our stuff down push it to the side t doesn't matter about them first but at the end of the day like i tell this to friends i tell this to
aaron (55:35.628)
oh h h
jey (55:55.283)
you know people i work with parents what not anyone i talked to it's like yes you're right your kid is a top priority but your kid also deserves you to be the version of yourself so that you can truly give them everything that you didn't have grown up because when a lot of people say that i feel and i think i totally miss the question but when a lot of people say that i feel is like i want to give my kids everything i have grown up and they're a lot
aaron (56:05.628)
oh h h
jey (56:24.323)
times they're talking about material but they're also talking about the emotional and the mental support that they didn't get and so you can't do that as a parent if you're not taking the steps forward that you need to get there whether it's you know getting into a gym getting into a martial art getting into running or anything for you for yourself anything for you physically i think is just next level it's going to bring you
aaron (56:35.628)
yah yah
jey (56:55.063)
a level of clarity that's just going to change your life something i you know recently got back on i've got back on the wagon a few weeks ago you know just moving my body more especially moving it more with my kid where i take them swimming where we hang out at the pool they just swim around they get all their energy they're exhausted come seven thirty eight o'clock and i i love it it's the best especially being a single dad with the two um but like they're moving their body ad they're having
aaron (57:05.628)
oh
jey (57:24.283)
so much fun we're having fun together and heck i'm tired too because i'm chasing them around the pool but my body's moving nd then i'm going to the gym i'm there in the gym where i'm exposed in the environment you know i'm more open to try new things like over the last couple of weeks i've trying to freak in yoga palates class mixed that was sore for three days after that and then i did a kadi class the next week first time ever doing any kind of martial art it was difficult i was out of place
aaron (57:35.628)
yeah yeah
jey (57:54.303)
the same time i wasn't because like you got a start you got to start somewhere you've got to start at some point in your life and you know you kind of mentioned that well balanced dad diet you know it's there's so many things that go into that that well balanced bad diet and you've hit on pretty much all of it you know hard work um values dedication commit long term goals discipline so many things that are so important open community
aaron (58:05.628)
oh
jey (58:24.323)
ation being vulnerable with yourself
jey (58:30.943)
how do you translate that for someone yes you can translate it to them in the gym in that setting but how are you what's that take home message for these clients for that well well balanced dad diet i'm gonna i'm gonna patent pending on that one um but how does that well balanced dad diet how does that translate from the gym to the home for you personally and for what you work with how you
aaron (58:34.928)
yeah
Matt Noonan (58:47.96)
that's you should
jey (59:00.763)
coach your clients to transfer that
Matt Noonan (59:04.1)
so so i think that's a good question it's i mean how it kind of translates across it
aaron (59:06.728)
yeah
oh
aaron (59:13.028)
yeah
oh
Matt Noonan (59:18.3)
it just it just allows you to do more and be more effective with your time like it just that's by do it by by taking the boxes and you know filling your own cup and doing the things that are important to you it becomes then about like quality over quantity and that's the that's you know you mentioned going and and running around and swimming with you kids and stuff like that
aaron (59:22.728)
yeah
aaron (59:31.428)
yeah
aaron (59:42.828)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (59:48.34)
if you weren't physically able like none of that becomes quality time and i've met plenty of dads and i've heard plenty of stories about how i get home from work and the only thing i want to do is i want to sit on the couch with the beer and watch t v the kids are there
aaron (59:49.028)
oh
aaron (01:00:02.428)
ye
jey (01:00:05.143)
oh that gives me that drives me crazy man it drives me crazy because it's like you you just lost out on like it's hard it's hard when your single parent you only have your kids half the time and many dads on them far less than that than me i'm very fortunate that i have half the time but that drives me bankers it's like why
aaron (01:00:05.928)
yeah
aaron (01:00:10.628)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (01:00:26.56)
but
this is this is the i think it's the lack of a like when they're there all the time you don't appreciate the time that you've got like they don't have that again like drawing back to one of the points in the healthy and the healthy dad that you're talking about like that long term mind set of like and even short term mind like this isn't going to last forever like it's something that plays on my mind all the time when it comes to my kids like i shared a post this morning about like my like i
aaron (01:00:37.228)
oh ah
aaron (01:00:48.028)
yeah
aaron (01:00:52.528)
yeah
jey (01:00:54.563)
yeah
aaron (01:00:58.628)
yeah
Matt Noonan (01:00:59.undefined)
go for a walk most mornings if i'm not doing digito in the mornings like i generally start my morning with a walk and for me it's usually like a little bit of like reflection or i'll put like a podcast on or something like that i'll go for a walk but the last couple of weeks like my son has been wanting to come with me and i don't want like you know i want him to come out we've got a beautiful area like with some wet lands and some lakes the ducks are like there and everything like that so i'll stick him in his trick and i'll go for a walk now i get this like
aaron (01:01:05.528)
ye
jey (01:01:09.763)
we can not
aaron (01:01:14.628)
oh
oh
Matt Noonan (01:01:29.12)
this kind of talk in the back of my head where it's like you should still be learning something you're missing out on time for this this is going to help you move the business forward and i'm like yeah but also on top of that this is also time i'm not going to be able to get back with my son
aaron (01:01:29.228)
oh yeah
aaron (01:01:39.828)
yeah
Matt Noonan (01:01:45.34)
and that's that's for me that's like this ex like this experience will only ever happen once and that's like yes there might be different iterations of a very similar experience but he may never ask me again like he did this morning ken birds go to space and as funny as
aaron (01:01:48.628)
oh
aaron (01:01:59.628)
yeah yeah
jey (01:02:03.563)
i love that no i'm the post right now
aaron (01:02:04.928)
oh
Matt Noonan (01:02:05.78)
and and as funny as that sounds like that is just that like you thinking of things on that level and being so appreciative of those things then all of a sudden when you've got the urge to go and sit on the couch and drink a beer with the kids in the room it's like well what else could i be doing with this time with them and if you're if you're so exhausted to a point where you can't concentrate doing something else because you're not quite you're not physically capable of doing
aaron (01:02:11.928)
yeah
aaron (01:02:15.328)
oh
yeah
aaron (01:02:24.228)
yeah yeah
jey (01:02:26.463)
yes
aaron (01:02:30.528)
yeah yeah
yeah
Matt Noonan (01:02:36.44)
then you need to make the appropriate steps to shift that and that's how it filters into everything else you know like because then it's like all right well i'm because i'm not i am physically done what i need to take care of myself it's it's not only affecting the like it's affecting them because of the tight time that i'm spending with them but if you want to be like if if you want to take a selfish mind set to it like have to think about the guilt that
aaron (01:02:43.528)
yeah
yeah yeah
yeah
aaron (01:02:59.728)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (01:03:05.62)
re going to have in five years time when you've done that consistently for five years and you haven't made the change and you can't get that time back with them like as chitty as that sounds like that's that's the reality of it right like that and that's some some people unfortunately like they need to have that real long hard talk to themselves because like it's just the reality of it it's not trying to make them feel worse about their situation or anything like that but you know if you keep
aaron (01:03:11.528)
yeah
yeah yeah
jey (01:03:17.423)
true
aaron (01:03:18.128)
yeah yeah
jey (01:03:20.263)
yeah
aaron (01:03:27.528)
yeah yeah
jey (01:03:28.463)
m
aaron (01:03:35.228)
oh ah
Matt Noonan (01:03:35.52)
doing the same thing and getting the same result like isn't that that's the definition of insanity isn't it isn't that the old saying like
jey (01:03:43.083)
yes yes it is yes it is
aaron (01:03:45.888)
yeah it's it's doing the same thing and expecting a different result so go ahead i'm sorry
Matt Noonan (01:03:47.54)
yeah and that's that
Matt Noonan (01:03:52.06)
and that's i mean at the end of the day that's the point right like if you're if there's something that you're not happy with that you know inherently you want to change if you're not taking the steps and this this is going to sound very motivational speaker again but if you're not taking the appropriate steps to change that which are different from the steps that you're taking now like there's only one person you can blame when it gets five years down the track and all that regret is there because
you haven't been able to spend that time that you wanted to with your kids like there's no there's at that point there's no one else to blame and that's where yu know shift like we spoke about earlier shifting that mentality from you know reasons and excuses because you feel tired of reason or isn't it isn't an excuse because realistically it's an excuse right like i feel tired like you've been a little bit lazy about it but if you like physically feel like you can't move at all the under
jey (01:04:44.403)
yeah
Matt Noonan (01:04:52.undefined)
problem is not every thing else that he maybe i need to do something to try and improve my physical state so that i don't feel like this at the end of the day and that might mean you need to take three afternoons a week where you're not sitting on the couch and drinking beer and actually go to the gym and do something or go to jugitoandlike you know get yourself moving go for a run go for a walk like a big thing i done with a lot of people in this program who are in you know pretty bad shape it's like hey all i want you to do is i want you to go for a walk
thirty minutes five times a week and that's going to be our starting point but you do five thirty minute walks a week two things that is going to do that's going to start to help you etch out that time for yourself that's number one because that's if if you can do that you after you've told me you don't have time then we're off to a pretty good start and then secondly if you're doing absolutely zero physical activity it's going to start to take that box as well too and then from there if we do that for two to three week period we're able to be on
aaron (01:05:42.328)
oh
yeah
aaron (01:05:51.628)
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (01:05:51.72)
sistent with it then we might hey let's do let's do some squats and stuff before we get into like you know before we go for our walk now and just incrementally increase things and start to increase that activity as we go through you know so it doesn't have to be complicated but if you're in that position and you don't change it there's really no one else to point the finger at the man in the mirror you know
aaron (01:05:56.128)
my
yeah
jey (01:06:17.663)
very true and i feel like that's very true for a lot of men it's very true for a lot of men where maybe it's just me talking here because it's very true for myself aron knows this but you know i'm my own worst enemy i am the anti hero and the antagonist and protagonist or whatever it's called of my own story i would i would yeah that one yeah i'm my own antagonist in my own story and i feel like that's that's true for a lot of men like i'm in a couple of dad groups on facebook and the
aaron (01:06:36.468)
yeah
you're the antagonist you're the antagonist in your own story
jey (01:06:47.603)
dudes are just beating themselves up so freaking hard like it's my fault what can i do to change this situation what can i do what can i do what can i do dude i work with he's always like complain about his his girl friend and baby mom a whatever just like yeah she just has me do all this extra stuff i don't know why and you know i just do it and you know keep her happy whatever and it's like dude we're at the same age and yet
i'm your boss like grand everyone has a different path of different life choices different things they do things like that but it's like where you're burnt out dude like i can see you're burnt out with your family you know and i feel like that's one of the worst places be and that's where a lot of men are because they're not taking like you're saying they're not taking a thirty minutes to day just to go and walk there's so many benefits just walking you know you're moving your body outside you're getting fresh air getting sun vitamin d you
aaron (01:07:45.128)
oh
yeah
jey (01:07:47.843)
you're moving increasing your longevity you're improving yourself you're an you're and you on that same aspect you're eliminating very basic excuse of oh i don't have time you have the time it's all about just how you're using it umit'sjat's very true so you know that's let's wrap up here let's let's bring it back home home for you when you're one thing that you're excellent out here one thing that i see all over your page
aaron (01:07:50.128)
yeah
Matt Noonan (01:08:02.62)
hundred percent
jey (01:08:17.483)
and what not is creating a world view for your clients and for then but bring it back down to a personal level when you're helping create a world view for your kids what does that look like and how do you want them to view the world when it's all said and done at the end of the day what's the world view of your kids going out into the great big scary world especially if they come to the u s
keep them in australia
Matt Noonan (01:08:48.14)
that's
you know you know this is i don't know this might sound a little bit esoteric but it's not about how you view the world it's how you view yourself is like the big thing that like i try like i'm trying to get my kids to understand especially like especially my daughter right as like as a like young ladies are so susceptible to the way the world is right now
aaron (01:08:55.228)
yeah
yeah
aaron (01:09:03.728)
yeah
aaron (01:09:15.028)
yeah
jey (01:09:18.983)
yes
Matt Noonan (01:09:21.08)
and it is
jey (01:09:21.342)
yep one hundred percent i mean we have four girls five girls total on this podcast right now between the three of us
aaron (01:09:22.528)
yeah
Matt Noonan (01:09:26.56)
yeah yeah and it's like it's like it's about how you view yourself and and this is it goes it's the same for my son to like if you say you're gonna do something to it on on a deeper level understand what is inside your circle of control and what is outside of it and be real about that accept the things that are outside like outside of your circle of control and then take the act
aaron (01:09:32.627)
yeah
aaron (01:09:35.928)
yah yah
yeah
aaron (01:09:45.028)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (01:09:56.38)
and to move the needle on the things that are inside of your control like they're they're the big things that i've noticed with my like she's gotten older and she's like she's in a third year of formal schooling and things like that so she's getting exposed to more of this stuff and the way the world is at the moment can create so much anger and anxiety for everybody let alone like a little seven year old and it's like hey there are so much there's so much noise and there's so much stuff that goes on
aaron (01:09:56.828)
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
aaron (01:10:14.028)
yeah yeah
jey (01:10:20.563)
hm yeah
aaron (01:10:22.728)
yeah
Matt Noonan (01:10:27.22)
but you're not you can't control ninety percent of it but you can't control how you feel about yourself you can control the action that you take and being true to that action and that's that's the bit that like that's the thing that i just keep trying to hammer home to them sometimes i feel like i'm talking to a war but you know i keep saying it and we keep showing it like proving it to them through my actions as well then hopefully as we hit those ten
aaron (01:10:32.028)
yeah yeah
oh
aaron (01:10:48.128)
yeah
yeah yeah
Matt Noonan (01:10:56.4)
years that might sink in
jey (01:10:59.383)
yeah hopefully well there was amazing talking to you man and there's there's so many things to draw from here but you know i think we're gonna tile this episode a well balanced dad diet and there's so many things included in that you know one big thing that we didn't dive deep into but we've talked about it consistently on this show is being present being present when your kids putting down the beer putting down that i just want to kick my feet up and left alone and watch t v kicked off that
aaron (01:10:59.728)
oh
oh yeah
yeah
jey (01:11:29.963)
nineteen twenties mindset um you know and get up and be present with your kids you know play a card game with them do something with the color with them your kids love you and they want to spend that time with you their desperate for that with you and that's all they want all they want and kids will always remember who who showed up they always remember who showed up and who was there for them when they needed him and when they didn't because when they need you and you weren't there for them to
aaron (01:11:56.428)
yeah
jey (01:11:59.123)
first time we're all those other times just doing basic up with them building that relationship with them answering the questions like you with your son like do birds fly in the space now he knows he can go with you to you for the most ridiculous thing and he also knows later in life it's going to be in his brain oh i can go to dad for something i asked some re an do birds fly to space when i was four um i've had him to stop hearing about that now i'm sixteen but now i actually need to talk about something serious and i know he's got my back i know he's going to
aaron (01:12:01.328)
yeah yeah
aaron (01:12:18.628)
yeah
aaron (01:12:25.228)
yeah yeah
jey (01:12:29.163)
he's going to talk to me and i just feel that's so important you know be present you know be part of their world you know the same dedication that you would give to yourself you give to your kids but you also have to make sure you're giving it to yourself you know and still those values on yourself set your own goals work hard for your goals self dedication self commitment self discipline self love all those things included in the well balanced dad diet or the healthy dad diet
um and yeah on anything anything from you
aaron (01:13:07.908)
oh yeah the last little tid bit i want to leave with you guys today is you know i forgot where i heard it but you know when your kids are young it's the only time where they don't have to commit their time to something else really beside school you know so if you
use to sit back and indulge in you know things that are going to take your short term attention away from the stress and whatever you know once they become even teen agers young teen agers their time starts going away and so that's even less time for you to spend with them even less time to make memories and then once they get to young adults they're in the same boat is that you are right now you know they're managing their time they're managing their relationship so you know it really starts
like like matt said you know when they're young you got to build that a strong foundation you have to be that open book be vulnerable be there be president be active you know set that example for them to to really help them throughout their their young lives you know in order for them to you know have a good course of to follow throughout their life
jey (01:14:23.263)
hundred percent and matt you know go and first question is i need one of those up shirts long sleeve black preferably take all re order one of those but go head and leave the listeners with anything you want to leave them to wrap us up here you get the last word and plug yourself away as well
Matt Noonan (01:14:31.76)
no problem
Matt Noonan (01:14:46.86)
well that you can find me on instagram is at the unstubable dadfacebooks the unstupbable dad project my podcast is the unstubable dad project solo podcast myself just going through tips and tricks that i've come across from my time as a dad and also through being a coach for the last fifteen years and just my personal journey my struggles that i've had with my mental health at different times and just day to day week to week
aaron (01:15:03.628)
oh
aaron (01:15:08.028)
oh
Matt Noonan (01:15:16.42)
a life so it's called the unstubable dad project you can find it on all the podcastpplatforms apple spotified google and that's probably where you can go to find me for any information but i appreciate your time guys it's been on real chatting to you'll have to do it again
aaron (01:15:17.028)
oh
aaron (01:15:22.628)
oh yeah
jey (01:15:33.583)
it's been great with camlet we'd love to have you on again
aaron (01:15:34.328)
yes sir thank you for your time we appreciate you
Matt Noonan (01:15:38.88)
thanks guys appreciate it